JimF-LowBari Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 It's mostly high schools and individuals buying these horns. Thanks, still getting used to the idea of high school owning their own equipement. In my area (many years ago) the school only owned percussion and Sousaphones. Mmmmm, wonder how a corps budget plans would be affected if they didn't sell as much equipment as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justafan Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 To answer the original question, a full horn line costs roughly twice that of a full pit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoats88 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 based on the MSRP listed in the Bluestars sale here are the numbers. Hornline is more. Musser Sideline Equipment Model # Date Avail Qty Avail MSRP 4.5 Octave Marimba M7365 Immediately 2 $9,640 $19,280 Gold Bar 3.0 Octave Vibraphones M8055G Immediately 3 $6,880 $20,640 Pro Portable 3.5 Octave Xylophone M8051 Immediately 1 $3,550 $3,550 Symphonic Chimes - 1.5 Octave M661CCT Immediately 1 $6,650 $6,650 Tympani Hammered with Gauges LKP505PG Immediately 1 $17,450 $17,450 16x32 Concert Bass Drum** LECB62X8-WB Immediately 2 $2,075 $4,150 Concert Toms 6", 8", 10", 12" LECT62CC Immediately 2 $1,435 $2,870 Concert Toms 13", 14", 15", 16" LECT36CC Immediately 2 $1,740 $3,480 Entire Front Line TOTAL $78,070 King Marching Brass (Manufacturer's Information) Model # Date Avail Qty Avail MSRP King Ultimate Marching Series Trumpet - Silver 1117-SP Aug-07 26 $1,450 $37,700 King Ultimate Marching Series Mellophone - Silver 1121-SP Aug-07 14 $1,825 $25,550 King Ultimate Marching Series Baritone - Silver 1127-SP Aug-07 8 $2,375 $19,000 King Ultimate Marching Series Euphonium - Silver 1129-SP Aug-07 12 $2,695 $32,340 King Ultimate Marching Series Tuba - Silver 1141-SP Aug-07 12 $6,950 $83,400 TOTAL $197,990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedrummer Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Anyone know if corps do lease / buy analysis on horns or percussion equipment? Would need to factor in expected life, depreciation of equipment and residual value for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 Typical horn player, I really over estimated the cost of the keyboards in the pit. Thanks Bluecoat88..... Anyone with "life expectacy" of pit instruments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn craig Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 One additional costs to the pit would be all the mallets they go through. I know that's not as significant as the equipment itself but it is an additional costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmurrey74 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 One additional costs to the pit would be all the mallets they go through. I know that's not as significant as the equipment itself but it is an additional costs. For some, all mallets and sticks are free, but the costs would apply to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyboy Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 My understanding of the deal Hopkins negotiated Yamaha: Both YEA! corps get a full hornline and battery every season (for free). The corps then sells the instruments at the end of each season and keeps the money. I don't think they get the instruments a reduced cost up front, but they might. One person I talked to that used to work for YEA! told me this, and I am pretty sure they got the details right. They told me it was the best deal anyone has negotiated with an instrument company, and it sounds like it. However the deal works, YEA! is selling their stuff yearly. Other "top" corps get the instruments at no cost, but the companies retain owenership. At the end of a period of use the instruments are taken back and refurbished, then sold as such. Treatment of a corps is directly proportional to how good they are. Top corps are getting new drums yearly while some corps have to keep the drums for a few seasons. Other corps buy instruments out right, or are sponsored for partial cost. Drums is the number one sponsorship, and pit equipment follows. Sticks are usually free to most top corps, or at a very reduced cost. I'm not sure, but my guess is only the top five or six corps have brass sponsorships. As far as the OP, my guess is a full brassline costs way more than a full pit. Also, anyone paying list or book price for anything needs their head examined, the MSRP is a joke in the instrument world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn craig Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 My understanding of the deal Hopkins negotiated Yamaha: Both YEA! corps get a full hornline and battery every season (for free). The corps then sells the instruments at the end of each season and keeps the money. I don't think they get the instruments a reduced cost up front, but they might. One person I talked to that used to work for YEA! told me this, and I am pretty sure they got the details right. They told me it was the best deal anyone has negotiated with an instrument company, and it sounds like it. However the deal works, YEA! is selling their stuff yearly.Other "top" corps get the instruments at no cost, but the companies retain owenership. At the end of a period of use the instruments are taken back and refurbished, then sold as such. Treatment of a corps is directly proportional to how good they are. Top corps are getting new drums yearly while some corps have to keep the drums for a few seasons. Other corps buy instruments out right, or are sponsored for partial cost. Drums is the number one sponsorship, and pit equipment follows. Sticks are usually free to most top corps, or at a very reduced cost. I'm not sure, but my guess is only the top five or six corps have brass sponsorships. As far as the OP, my guess is a full brassline costs way more than a full pit. Also, anyone paying list or book price for anything needs their head examined, the MSRP is a joke in the instrument world. I think Cavaliers do something similar with Yamaha. I think they sell the horns every two years; at least that's what I've noticed on their website and think I remember someone from the organization saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbass598 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 based on the MSRP listed in the Bluestars sale here are the numbers.Hornline is more. Musser Sideline Equipment Model # Date Avail Qty Avail MSRP 4.5 Octave Marimba M7365 Immediately 2 $9,640 $19,280 Gold Bar 3.0 Octave Vibraphones M8055G Immediately 3 $6,880 $20,640 Pro Portable 3.5 Octave Xylophone M8051 Immediately 1 $3,550 $3,550 Symphonic Chimes - 1.5 Octave M661CCT Immediately 1 $6,650 $6,650 Tympani Hammered with Gauges LKP505PG Immediately 1 $17,450 $17,450 16x32 Concert Bass Drum** LECB62X8-WB Immediately 2 $2,075 $4,150 Concert Toms 6", 8", 10", 12" LECT62CC Immediately 2 $1,435 $2,870 Concert Toms 13", 14", 15", 16" LECT36CC Immediately 2 $1,740 $3,480 Entire Front Line TOTAL $78,070 Those prices on the MSRP are definitely highballed. I know for a fact that brand new vibes run between 4,000-4,500 brand new through a music store. Xylophones are about 2,000-2,500 brand new. Marimbas are expensive and can run between 7,000-9,000 for a 4.5 octave. I believe a 4.3 octave Adams on a field frame can be had for between 3,500-4,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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