The P-Horns, I think Some of the previous posts are pretty fair about, Jim. I fooled with a P-Bone where I get my horns worked on, and if you can't get a solid used horn cheap… I think they're a decent make-do as a starter instrument for someone wanting to learn and get the basics down. Cheaper than say.... one of those horns made of Chinesium one can find out there for not a lot of money but are kind of a mixed bag.
I need to figure out if I want a Fiscorn, actually. Basically a kind of crazy rotor valved C Bass Flugelhorn that I've seen for sale at semi-reasonable prices. Thinking it might work for church gigs since you don't have to transpose and from listening to videos, they sound decent, well, I think I can get one to sound pretty decent.
Thinking this thing might be a viable weapon for DCA I and E rather than my Euphonium…. and a LOT cheaper than a Cimbasso.