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Another ancillary to this (please correct me if I'm wrong) but if you're making a recording, or taking a photograph, from a public vantage point (say, a parking lot) then there's no copyright violation in simply taking the actual video or picture (for your own personal use), but you can't later distribute your video/photo of the copyrighted or trademarked material. I've read stories about that people running into problems with this when trying to take pictures of famous landmarks that have been trademarked, and the associated security personnel trying to either prevent them from taking pictures or even going so far as trying to confiscate their film or cameras. As I understand it, you're perfectly within your right to photograph even copyrighted or trademarked material if it's visible from a public vantage point, and you're taking the picture from a public vantage point--a sidewalk, for instance. As this applies to drum corps (again, per my understanding), you're perfectly within your right to record a warm-up in a public area, but you have no right to distribute the recording without the permission of the corps.

I've even seen individuals from a couple of the corps in your list do similar things during Finals retreat. (Cameras, etc) This comes up time and time again, usually when someone either wants to use it as a reason for their corps being better than the rest or when someone wants to use it as an excuse to bash a corps that they don't like.

SUTA!!!!!!! Way to go Regiment!!!!!!

Except Finals isn't included so no, IMO, it wouldn't be pointless. If they can't afford to produce the live TV broadcast anymore (which is understandable), then why not at least carry over the internet or theater broadcasts to Saturday night? This didn't seem to affect Finals ticket sales before (when it was on TV or we had the theater simulcasts, as in 94) so I don't know why people are so worried that it would now.

Spartacus is actually leader of the Others.

I watched us for a second or two on the jumbo-tron at Foxboro while we kneeled down, facing backfield, during Claire de Lune.

Negatively stereotyping an entire corps, in perpetuity, solely on the basis of an overheard comment made years ago is just as ignorant now as it was last year. And the year before that. And the year before that. LOL, at least you're consistent. In the same spirit of repetitive redundancy, I'll ask again--how may people from the corps have you since gotten to know? Have you gone to a clinic or watched them rehearse? I'm guessing you haven't. Yet, you keep saying the same thing, over and over. (That axe must be pretty well-honed by now...)

Salt on the wound... (I finally got one that year--made up for not including me in the shot of the up front soli section in Hymn to Peace in 92!))

You know, there was a Seinfeld episode dealing with people making out in a movie theater during Schindler's List. It doesn't mean that Spielberg was "teaching" people to not take those events seriously, or intending for it to eventually end up on a sitcom. I'm pretty sure he never saw that one coming. The same thing goes for the Regiment staff and this particular poll. You're all over the place with your assumptions--which posts, exactly, do you consider to be made by marching members, willfully (and, apparently, recklessly) allowed by corps staff? Or, did you just pull that out of your arse? (I'm still not sure what exactly this has to do with Bonfiglio or Royer, unless--and this is just a wild guess on my part--you're saying that the latter kept a tighter rein on how the members discussed "dead" color guard being carried off the field in 90? Again, I honestly don't know...)

With a good-sized drum corps crowd of 10,000 , that 10% could give us 1000 potential serial killers/mental defectives lurking in the audience. We'll be lucky if mass killings don't erupt on the spot. This show is hardly a glorifaction of violence, nor does it portray it as joke. It also isn't "teaching" our kids to view it cavalierly. (Personally, I would make a point to talk about it with my kids if I were to take them to see it.) In fact, I would tend to think that it attempts to do the opposite. They're simply trying to tell a story; nothing more, nothing less.

However, broken necks (Michael Irvin) get cheers!

Input or agreement? When you preemptively label those who may disagree with you as "pollyannas," this can happen. Especially 'round here. As to your original question--I can see where you're coming from (to an extent), but I think a preponderance of eclectic programming has been around DCI long before the past two seasons. As Lance said, it's all a matter of personal taste. I used to be frustrated that many (if not most) of the shows weren't connecting with me and didn't have music that I recognized. But, things change, along with my own tastes. Back in 93, I hated Star's show--couldn't stand it. Now, it's one of my favorites. I have no idea what changed...I guess something just clicked. Even as much as I sometimes miss the old days, when I could hum along with every show on the field (e.g. 1989, my first real exposure to DCI, via the top 12 PBS broadcast) I'm not so interested in seeing DCI jump in the wayback machine and go back to the days of broadway tunes and classical "hits." It would eventually feel stagnated, I think.

Regiment has a long way to go before it peaks. The voices told me.

Of course, it could also be that these corps are just consistently better performers.

Yeah, the things I remember most fondly about drum corps (both my time actually marching and the preceding years as a fan) seldom have much to do with what goes on in the DCP world, including many of the topics I post to myself! From a spectator's point of view, I think I might have had more fun watching the shows in my blissfully ignorant pre-marching days. It's almost a shock to me every summer when I finally get a chance to go out to a show, be around the trailers, buses, old drum corps friends, etc. and actually experience the activity in person as to just how much fun and far-removed it is from the online scene. (Which, sadly, makes up about 99% of my actual drum corps time each year.) As for the thread topic--I would love to be able to attend a dress rehearsal and be one of the first people to see a show--particularly one like this-- in person. (My own memories of the things center around trying to make it out alive, or at least with my helmet on and my horn in one piece!)

And let's not forget "Noooo!" from the 91 drum feature.

She is actually a he.

LOL, I think the difference between amped narration and whole corps/dm shouting is seen a little differently by most folks, but I'm pretty much over it, either way, by now. (Were people protesting that before amps came along?) We'll argue over anything 'round here.

Not an issue this time. According to previous posters, there's no narration actually in the show. (Unless we're considering a few shouted words narration. If that's the case, then "narration" has been around a long time in DCI...)

Bummer I missed it. We were in town through the 9th.

Former brass caption head Bill Peterson came up with the nickname during warmup before one of our shows in 94. We'd finished tuning in sectionals and were about to arc up and he had us play a line from the begining of White Witch Doctor. Basically, we were playing it a little too pretty. To get us in the right frame of mind, he used the analogy that if the sopranos were the Porches of the corps, we had to be the Buicks. The name stuck--he also began to call that same phrase (three loud *** whole notes) the Buick mating call. It wasn't so much about literally sounding like a buick as having the character, so to speak.

Only if we can properly define the term "fun." (Obviously, I tend to agree...) edit: I think I'll devise a list of everything that isn't fun. Or is. Maybe both. I dunno...

I always knew this thread would find its way to fencing monkeys. Do the rules forbid robot marchers? 'Cause I'm really hoping to see an all-ASIMO cymbal line. (Though conductor could work too.)

At least they didn't modulate it to sound like Jar Jar. That would've been crossing the line.

Drum corps just isn't drum corps without a spectral analyzer. (We still use atomic clocks for time-keeping, don't we?)