bluestarsrok Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Ignoring something that will likely happen just because it hasn't happened yet is equally foolish - IMO. The TOC shows are happening in 2011. All of the rest of the original G7 proposal will be in play again at some point. Perhaps it will be modified or repackaged - but the underlying concepts and motivation did not go away just because the G7 lost one vote. The current BOD has taken a stand on several things. BIG BUT - the current BOD is an interim BOD. All but 2 out of the 9 seats on the current BOD are up for election at the January meetings. That is only about 6 weeks away. Time for me to run, do they take write-in candidates? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Isn't it a fairly big presumption that being non-G8 provides less net than being G8? it's already been established being outside the 8 gets you less per show. And it seems that the G8 will get a larger cut of the pie from those super shows. so, no, not really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) it's already been established being outside the 8 gets you less per show. And it seems that the G8 will get a larger cut of the pie from those super shows. so, no, not really This is a big leap for a financial guy like you. The unanswered question still is "How big is the pie after costs?". I admit that I may have missed the announcement about how much the G8 shows are paying participants, but I don't think so. Their profit rubric WAS determined by cutting out DCI's fee and increasing attendance at each show. Has either one of those been realized? Does anyone know that DCI is NOT getting a cut of the TOC shows? Anyone able to establish that attendance, ticket prices, and costs will equal a higher payout to G8 participants than the local shows where they are paid by DCI? The only thing I've seen for certain is that the contract prices to have corps at local shows is the same as last year, but that the DCI fee for local shows increased slightly to cover travel costs. Other than that it's still unproven that the G8 will net more at TOC shows than non-G8 will during a local and regional show season. All in this financial guy's opinion, of course. Edited December 8, 2010 by garfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 This is a big leap for a financial buy like you. The unanswered question still is "How big is the pie after costs?". I admit that I may have missed the announcement about how much the G8 shows are paying participants, but I don't think so. Their profit rubric WAS determined by cutting out DCI's fee and increasing attendance at each show. Has either one of those been realized? Does anyone know that DCI is NOT getting a cut of the TOC shows? Anyone able to establish that attendance, ticket prices, and costs will equal a higher payout to G8 participants than the local shows where they are paid by DCI? The only thing I've seen for certain is that the contract prices to have corps at local shows is the same as last year, but that the DCI fee for local shows increased slightly to cover travel costs. Other than that it's still unproven that the G8 will net more at TOC shows than non-G8 will during a local and regional show season. All in this financial guy's opinion, of course. no formal announcement was made of how much per show the corps will get, however several posts from people who should know and would have said the amount goes up. I would imagine DCI still gets a fee, but probably less than at other shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 it's already been established being outside the 8 gets you less per show. Unless this has changed recently, I am not aware that this is a true statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Unless this has changed recently, I am not aware that this is a true statement. then people posted falsely. if so, my bad. But I can't imagine those corps going into it without getting some more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiodb Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I admit that I may have missed the announcement about how much the G8 shows are paying participants, but I don't think so. No....there hasn't been an announcement regarding the financial arrangement for TOC shows. Anyone able to establish that attendance, ticket prices, and costs will equal a higher payout to G8 participants than the local shows where they are paid by DCI? Establish? Maybe not. All I can say is this: 1. I am hearing that corps will be paid more for a TOC show than any other DCI shows. 2. Since a TOC appearance requires a corps to prepare and perform additional material beyond their competitive field show, the logic is that they deserve to be paid more for doing that....and I accept that logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 No....there hasn't been an announcement regarding the financial arrangement for TOC shows. Establish? Maybe not. All I can say is this: 1. I am hearing that corps will be paid more for a TOC show than any other DCI shows. 2. Since a TOC appearance requires a corps to prepare and perform additional material beyond their competitive field show, the logic is that they deserve to be paid more for doing that....and I accept that logic. I agree, it's not as if they would be getting paid more for showing up and doing the same amount of stuff as the non TOC shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpsPro89 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) What's stopping the non-G8 corps from putting together a show called "The tour of Sudo-Champions". It it'll be EXACTLY the same thing as the regular TOC but the TOSC will have non- G8 corps. DCI won't be involved and they can get extra money too. Everyone seems to be complaining how the non-G8 corps are getting less money. But they have to be doing MORE to get more money. So, why don't they just do that instead of complaining that they are getting less money? Everyone can be happy, and everyone can get more money independently without having to rely on DCI to divvy up the cash!!<br> Edited December 8, 2010 by CorpsPro89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiodb Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 What's stopping the non-G8 corps from putting together a show called "The tour of Sudo-Champions". Their desire to honor the DCI bylaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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