2000Cadet Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Wait so we should lower our standard for one drum corp and "go easy on them"? We shouldn't pander to a drum corp because they decided to take on hard show. His review was honest and frankly right. Unless all Crown fans think that Carolina Crown should be babyed or something As much as I don't want to sound like a troll, I agree with you to a certain extent. I haven't seen Crown's show so I can't really judge. But given the review of that specific poster, I think he is entitled to feel what he feels about Crown's show. Just like everyone is critical of all the other corps, they shouldn't be cut any slack either. They're in the big leagues. Ill have a more detailed review tomorrow. But everyone did have a complete show. As far as my own caption awards. Most demanding-crown Loudest-cadets/crown Cleanest-coats Drill-cadets Guard-regiment/cavies Drums-I'm not gonna touch that. Um bloo/cavies Surprise-cadets After all that crap about Cadets not having a finished show, I'm glad that's been put to rest. te nada That's DE nada. Edited June 17, 2012 by Geoff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Wait so we should lower our standard for one drum corp and "go easy on them"? We shouldn't pander to a drum corp because they decided to take on hard show. His review was honest and frankly right. Unless all Crown fans think that Carolina Crown should be babyed or something Not asking to lower the standard. Just saying its unfair to say at this point that it's too hard for them. I mean, it is the first show. I see where Jon's coming from too. No disrespect intended. Just my opinion. See you around the forums. Edited June 17, 2012 by Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmiggles Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 So seeing that you "saw them all last week" I'm going to assume that means that you aren't marching drum corps which leads to one of a few possible scenarios. 1) You broke your leg jazz running with your "awesome" high school last fall and so you can't march this summer. But it must be an honor to have such an incredible ensemble rehearse on YOUR school's field. 2) You clearly are such a killer musician that you couldn't lower yourself to standards as low as drum corps. Instead, you choose to critique them from the side line 3) Or you simply tried to make the baritone line but just didn't quite make it. Better luck next year? Wow... the guy offers his opinion about a corps and all it's minions attack the guy. Defensive much. Geez 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifer Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 After all that crap about Cadets not having a finished show, I'm glad that's been put to rest. And if anyone read the update, Cadets said they had a complete show but were keeping the last minute off the field so the kids could have a little more time getting comfortable with Jeff's 200 bpm insanity. Good call to keep the kids safe. Instead, they tacked a quick bit to were the ending would start and are using it for two nights. With Cadets almost always starting the year with an overtime show, cutting a minute off the show at the start of pretty much any year would still keep them within the required time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Im sorry Carolina Crown, you are just not right for... THIS competition. God I love Family Guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geluf Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I saw them all last week, they practiced at my school. Maybe I should have mentioned that. Awwww, look at this poster! They're adorable! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I totally get where your coming from. An I was going to cut them some slack, but then I thought, no one gave scv any slack last year. And it turns out those people were kinda right. SCV '11 and Crown '12 -- not exactly parallel cases but I get what you're saying. Didn't see the performance tonight. I did see some ensemble rehearsals at the end of ST. There are definitely some issues in drill that need addressed. None of them are huge problems but they are problems. Overall I still think the design is attainable and not over their heads. Cool thing is -- we all get watch and see what happens :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I totally get where your coming from. An I was going to cut them some slack, but then I thought, no one gave scv any slack last year. And it turns out those people were kinda right. Haha! Touche sir. It'll be fun to see how the season unfolds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwillis35 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Just got home from the show. I will post this in the review section as well. Here are some general thoughts: A. Stadium and Crowd: Excellent! This is a great stadium for a regional show let alone the first of the year. Big crowd, and the fans seemed very enthusiastic for all the corps (some more than others). Hey, it was a Bluecoats crowd...and you gotta love that here in the Canton/Akron metro area. B. My placements for tonight: 1. Bluecoats 73.75 2. Phantom Regiment 73.30 3. The Cadets 72.60 4. Carolina Crown 72.00 5. The Cavaliers 71.85 6. Blue Stars 67.25 C. Caption Awards Brass = 1. Crown, 2. Bluecoats, 3. Phantom Regiment, 4. Cadets, 5. Cavaliers, 6. Blue Stars Percussion = 1. Cavaliers, 2. Bluecoats, 3. Cadets, 4. Phantom, 5. Crown, 6. Blue Stars Auxiliary = 1. Phantom, 2. Cadets, 3. Cavaliers, 4. Bluecoats, 5. Crown, 6. Blue Stars Visual Performance = 1. Bluecoats, 2. Phantom, 3. Cadets, 4. Cavaliers, 5. Crown, 6. Blue Stars Total GE = 1. Cadets, 2. Bluecoats, 3. Phantom, 4. Crown, 5. Cavaliers, 6. Blue Stars D. Audience Reaction 1. Bluecoats, 2. Cadets, 3. Phantom, 4. Crown, 5. Blue Stars, 6. Cavaliers E. Some Overarching Thoughts I am not sure how the judges saw this, but the above rankings are how I saw the show. Overall I thought it was a great beginning to the 2012 season. The Bluecoats seemed the cleanest to me, but I will also say this: LOOKOUT!!!! The Bluecoats have a wonderful show, great arrangements, high GE impact points (much stronger than last year), and they have players. They will be a tough corps for Crown, Cadets, Cavaliers, BD, Phantom, and others, to deal with. Their show opens with Masquerade from Phantom of the Opera, and it is a gorgeous arrangement that perfectly works with this show. Of course, the inside joke here (more of a tip of the cap) is that SCV, known for Phantom of the Opera in the 1980s, obtained the services of some of the Bluecoats brass staff at the end of last season. BLOOOO has responded in kind, a short tip-of-the-cap, and one great show that follows. They will be a must see this year! Phantom Regiment came off as the 2nd most clean, and boy do they have a beautiful show, with easily the most striking guard outfits of the night. The music is gorgeous and the brass is really dark. Oh, and Nessum Dorma was just incredible. They will definitely put people on their feet big time when this gets cleaned. Maybe not the most demanding show, but we shall see what they do in the coming weeks. I believe they have a wonderful beginning sketch, and they definitely have that goose-bump moment at the end! The Cadets Christmas show may have scared some, but on this live viewing I must say that this will be a killer show. It's classic Cadets, and up to the middle of their ballad I had them easily in 1st. The end of the ballad needs cleaned. Lots of phasing due to their incredible field coverage. The closer was only partially played. They basically marched to the end of O Come All Ye Faithful and then held out a big fat chord to end the show. So it wasn't bad, but no doubt we all await the goodies that these guys can bring once the last minute of drill is locked in. This show is beautiful, stunning in effect, and really well played. They will certainly challenge for Gold once again. Carolina Crown was a bit of a let down for me. The brass is wonderful, with what I thought was the most demanding horn book. But I got lost a good bit with the source material. I love Copland's 3rd symphony, and when that music appears in the show, I just love it. But some of the transitions are not happening just yet, and I am not buying the arrangements of the other music. Drill is good, but not as good as Cadets. And they are really sloppy. Drums are good, but the Guard was almost non-existent to me. I think it was the uniform. No contrast and there was no big visual hit that grabbed my attention. The closing of Fanfare for the Common man is definitely a treat. The Cavaliers have wonderful drill, but musically this show is not anywhere near Bluecoats, Cadets, Phantom, or Crown. The sound of the brass seemed a step down from the other 4, and I thought Blue Stars actually had a better sounding brass line. Cavaliers definitely have percussion--amazing percussion! And the drill is good. I just question the source material for music and the overall show theme didn't hit me tonight. I need another read. I know they will bring it as the season progresses. The Blue Stars were easily the dirtiest of the corps, but I really like their show, and I love how the Dvorak "New World Symphony" is woven into the music. Some excellent GE impact points and some really amazing drill by Myron Roseander (sp?). They had probably the 3rd or 4th most demanding visual program of the group tonight. If they can clean, then look out because I believe this show could be a big crowd-pleasing show. They do have to clean fast and they have some serious demand (more visually than musically), but I like what I saw tonight. Well that's all I got for tonight. We shall see what each of these corps do over the coming weeks. My gut instinct is that The Cadets show is going to surprise a lot of folks, and Jeff Sacktig's drill is AWESOME! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njthundrrd Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Somebody say, "One more video please?" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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