OrlandoContraAlum Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I asked the same thing last night ... the beginning, the drum break and the ballad are live ... you can see the performers at the mics when it is live. Wait, what parts are live? In the beginning, the counting sounds EXACTLY like the original, while the narration sounds different. Is the narration live? Perhaps the better question is this: Exactly what (vocal) parts are samples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoContraAlum Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 In the opener, the counting is sampled. The narration of actual words is live. Ok, cool. Thanks for the clarification. BTW, I kinda love the counting parts when the kids are doing it. Ballad narration, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KakkoiiOtaku Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Wait, what parts are live? In the beginning, the counting sounds EXACTLY like the original, while the narration sounds different. Is the narration live? Perhaps the better question is this: Exactly what (vocal) parts are samples? In the preshow/opener ... there are two girls saying the words. The constant 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 is being played by a pit member through samples. I think there's one other small section for 4-8 measures early on that is sampled, and doubled in the live vocals, but that is all that I'm aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoContraAlum Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 In the preshow/opener ... there are two girls saying the words. The constant 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 is being played by a pit member through samples. I think there's one other small section for 4-8 measures early on that is sampled, and doubled in the live vocals, but that is all that I'm aware of. Thanks. Would love it if they did all the counting live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortAndFast Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The Mesa video was interesting. I like the live counting in the drum break better than the sampled counting. Any idea why they decided not to do it all live? The narration in the ballad seems way too baked into the design to get rid of. I have to think that's going to be around in some form all summer. The music is great, the more restrained drill is a good choice, but it's definitely harder to love than recent Crown efforts. It'll be interesting to see how their fans react this summer. I do think it's going to get a lot of love from the green shirts ("Oooh, obnoxious talking drawing attention away from beautiful music. Fresh! Innovative! Where's the Box 6 on these sheets?"). It certainly looks like a medalist's show, even at this early stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownisking Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The Mesa video was interesting. I like the live counting in the drum break better than the sampled counting. Any idea why they decided not to do it all live? The narration in the ballad seems way too baked into the design to get rid of. I have to think that's going to be around in some form all summer. The music is great, the more restrained drill is a good choice, but it's definitely harder to love than recent Crown efforts. It'll be interesting to see how their fans react this summer. I do think it's going to get a lot of love from the green shirts ("Oooh, obnoxious talking drawing attention away from beautiful music. Fresh! Innovative! Where's the Box 6 on these sheets?"). It certainly looks like a medalist's show, even at this early stage. Some of the sampled counting is done when the girls are playing. Some of it is done while they're talking (preshow). The "1905" line was done live for a while, but in runthroughs it sounded like the girl needed a few more seconds to catch her breath so now that's sampled. Probably a few other reasons as well. Personally, I'd rather it be sampled (if need be) and sound good vs done live and something potentially go wrong on the night I see them perform it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Regarding show design, I think they have. Crown is a fan favorite most years. Even here, far more people said they like this year's show than not. Well - sorry but I'm going to buck that trend. I've been a fan of Crown for the past few years but they sure lost me this year. Frankly I see this as a sellout to the Dada success (?) last year. The incessant chattering buries the incredible talent way too many times and goes from annoying, to intrusive, to really getting on the nerves. Horrible design for a fantastic corps. IMHO 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skywhopper Posted June 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) The "1905" line was done live for a while, but in runthroughs it sounded like the girl needed a few more seconds to catch her breath so now that's sampled. Probably a few other reasons as well. Personally, I'd rather it be sampled (if need be) and sound good vs done live and something potentially go wrong on the night I see them perform it. Unfortunately, I think this is nuts. The whole point is that this is a live performance. Sampling voice is a gutless move, IMO. Particularly when you have a ton of pit folks standing around doing nothing and microphones sitting unused (or the money to buy mikes for everyone in the corps if necessary). Voice is no more likely to cause problems than any other exposed or solo element. Using samples to avoid risk is antithetical to the entire point of the activity. Would you prefer a sampled trumpet solo to the real thing? Edited June 21, 2013 by skywhopper 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortAndFast Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Some of the sampled counting is done when the girls are playing. Some of it is done while they're talking (preshow). The "1905" line was done live for a while, but in runthroughs it sounded like the girl needed a few more seconds to catch her breath so now that's sampled. Probably a few other reasons as well. Personally, I'd rather it be sampled (if need be) and sound good vs done live and something potentially go wrong on the night I see them perform it. Personally, demanding live performances where something might go wrong (you might drop that rifle, frak that note, miss that form, etc) is what I enjoy about drum corps. I find it much more exciting to hear live singers who, indeed, might be out of breath or sing flat or be out of time. So much more awesome when they nail it. To each their own. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywhopper Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 What I'd've loved to have seen during the drum feature along with the counting is for the guard to be tossing that number of rifles on each number. 1. 2 2. 2 3. 2 4. 2. 1 1. 2 2. 3 3. 4 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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