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Yeah I heard... and it is extremely sad indeed. But it's not as though there is anything inherently dangerous about Rome for Americans. Except for those dumb tourists not prepared for the heat... and man is it HOT! Feels like San Antonio the third week of July. ;-)

Well try the Alban Hills outside of Rome and the beautiful views of Lago Albano. I hear Castel Gandalfo is vacant at the moment. Tell Papa Francesco I said, Buon giorno.

If you are staying in the city, be sure to check out Rome's own drum and bugle corps in the Swiss Guard (ask at Porta Santa Anna by the Vatican Museo for when they practice and troop.) Their big Roman performance is August 6th. The guard at the gate will also tell you where the best local eats are available at the cheapest prices. Further info and discount coupons can also be gotten at the Vatican Info office on the piazza or at the North American Collegio on the Janiculan Hill overlooking it all. Regarding the Swiss guard drum corps:

No , they are not getting new unis this season. Michaelangelo's design, now several hundred years old, is unique and still does them quite well. Sorry Cesario. Ciao.:smile:/>/>/>

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Preshow includes a comedy act that is actually pretty good. Had the audience laughing.

Just saw a video of The Academy on youtube.

I really hope the Piano man is either water down or removed. He reminds me of Pepe le Pew.

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Any idea when they practice? I will only be here until July 5th so will miss the Aug performance. Hope to catch DCI instead by then! Been here 4 weeks already. Ironically I haven't even made it to the Vatican yet. Its actually a bit out of the way and all the ancient ruins (plus Architecture studio) have been keeping me quite busy! Plenty of good eats around town if you just stay away from places clearly targeted at tourists. Ate fried artichoke today in the Jewish Quarter and it was FANTASTIC!

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Just saw a video of The Academy on youtube.

I really hope the Piano man is either water down or removed. He reminds me of Pepe le Pew.

.....I'd hate to say it, but it works. I just watched the video and my thoughts were along the lines of "...wat," but I guess it fits with their theme. Pianomen are usually rowdy, risqué rapscallions.

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Its not easy to finish in the TOP 12 year in and year out. You can't stand still, or others will pass you by. You have to keep improving year in and year out. BK has shown the ability to do this. Thats why its so hard to crack the TOP 12 in any year, and usually only 1 Corps or so at most does so in any year. And once a Corps makes the Top 12, it needs to demonstrate in a 3 year period it can do so 3 years in a row, or it usually is overtaken by another. I think the 11th and 12th positions at DCI are the most intriguing as it is here that we find the most volatility from year to year. BK is solidly in the TOP 12 , and has been for a decade. Barring something unforseen, it looks like BK is solidly in the TOP 12 once again and even has a good chance to possibly move up.

You are absolutely right. It used to be that there was a big gap between 12 and 13, and all you had to do was be "good enough" to make it in (or hold your spot).

But now we have about 6-7 corps that will be fighting for 11 and 12... and they're all good... because they have to be BETTER than last year's 12th place corps - or they will be left out.

This is going to be a great year for Drum Corps!!

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Wow, BK, despite the lack of off season hype, appears to be poised to possibly move up in the rankings, not down this summer, as some had predicted in the off seasson. Cool! :thumbup:/>/>/>

The majority of corps are better every year than the year previous. To move up in the rankings, a unit needs to be 'more-more-better' than the other units at their level.

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Its not easy to finish in the Top 12, year in and year out. You can't stand still, or others will pass you by. You have to keep improving year in and year out. BK has shown the ability to do this. That's why its so hard to crack the Top 12 in any year, and usually only one corps or so at most does so in any year. And once a corps makes the Top 12, it needs to demonstrate in a three-year period it can do so three years in a row, or it usually is overtaken by another. I think the 11th and 12th positions at DCI are the most intriguing, as it is here that we find the most volatility from year to year. BK is solidly in the Top 12, and has been for a decade. Barring something unforseen, it looks like BK is solidly in the Top 12 once again and even has a good chance to possibly move up.

You are absolutely right. It used to be that there was a big gap between 12th and 13th, and all you had to do was be "good enough" to make it in (or hold your spot).

But now we have about 6-7 corps that will be fighting for 11 and 12, and they're all good, because they have to be BETTER than last year's 12th place corps--or they will be left out.

I'm not sure history bears out the idea that the 12th place and 13th place corps were traditionally more clearly distinct from each other in quality than they are now. Let's take a closer look. Here, according to CorpsReps, are the relevant prelim/semi scores:

1972

12 -- 78.550 -- St. Andrew's Bridgemen

13 -- 78.450 -- Garfield Cadets

Difference: 0.100

1973

12 -- 76.550 -- Black Knights

13 -- 75.550 -- DeLaSalle Oaklands

Difference: 1.000

1974

12 -- 79.400 -- Blue Stars

13 -- 76.950 -- Polish Falcon Cadets

Difference: 2.450

1975

12 -- 79.600 -- Troopers

13 -- 79.000 -- Squires

Difference: 0.600

1976

12 -- 83.500 -- Seneca Optimists

13 -- 82.750 -- Troopers

Difference: 0.750

1977

12 -- 84.450 -- Garfield Cadets (tie)

12 -- 84.450 -- Kilties (tie)

Difference: 0.000

(Kingsmen at 14 with 83.600)

1978

12 -- 79.950 -- Kilties

13 -- 79.200 -- Freelancers

Difference: 0.750

1979

12 -- 81.900 -- Troopers

13 -- 81.700 -- Crossmen

Difference: 0.200

1980

12 -- 79.350 -- North Star

13 - 77.050 -- Blue Stars

Difference: 2.300

1981

12 -- 80.050 -- Freelancers

13 -- 79.850 -- North Star

Difference: 0.200

1982

12 -- 83.100 -- Cavaliers

13 -- 81.100 -- Suncoast Sound

Difference: 2.000

1983

12 -- 78.700 -- Sky Ryders

13 -- 78.600 -- Crossmen

Difference: 0.100

1984

12 -- 85.900 -- Velvet Knights

13 -- 85.200 -- Troopers

Difference: 0.700

1985

12 -- 85.900 -- Freelancers

13 -- 85.200 -- 27th Lancers

Difference: 0.700

1986

12 -- 85.900 -- Troopers

13 -- 85.600 -- 27th Lancers

Difference: 0.300

1987

12 -- 85.300 -- Sky Ryders

13 -- 84.700 -- Florida Wave

Difference: 0.600

1988

12 -- 86.600 -- Sky Ryders

13 -- 86.400 -- Dutch Boy

Difference: 0.200

1989

12 -- 85.800 -- Crossmen

13 -- 85.500 -- Dutch Boy

Difference: 0.300

1990

12 -- 86.300 -- Dutch Boy

13 -- 85.400 -- Blue Knights

Difference: 0.900

1991

12 -- 85.100 -- Sky Ryders

13 -- 84.600 -- Dutch Boy

Difference: 0.500

1992

12 -- 84.000 -- Freelancers

13 -- 83.900 -- Glassmen

Difference: 0.100

1993

11 -- 84.200 -- Colts / Glassmen (semifinal tie)

13 -- 83.100 -- Velvet Knights

Difference: 1.100

1994

12 -- 83.000 -- Colts

13 -- 82.600 -- Boston Crusaders

Difference: 0.400

1995

12 -- 81.900 -- Magic of Orlando

13 -- 81.300 -- Blue Knights

Difference: 0.600

1996

12 -- 84.600 -- Blue Knights

13 -- 82.700 -- Glassmen

Difference: 1.900

1997

12 -- 85.900 -- Carolina Crown

13 -- 84.100 -- Colts

Difference: 1.800

1998

12 -- 86.900 -- Carolina Crown

13 -- 85.000 -- Magic of Orlando

Difference: 1.900

1999

12 -- 85.200 -- Colts

13 -- 83.000 -- Bluecoats

Difference: 2.200

2000

12 -- 85.150 -- Bluecoats

13 -- 84.950 -- Southwind

Difference: 0.100

2001

12 -- 85.950 -- Colts

13 -- 84.050 -- Spirit from JSU

Difference: 1.900

2002

12 -- 85.950 -- Seattle Cascades

13 -- 85.500 -- Blue Knights

Difference: 0.450

2003

12 -- 85.500 -- Spirit from JSU

13 -- 85.350 -- Blue Knights

Difference: 0.150

2004

12 -- 86.375 -- Glassmen

13 -- 86.300 -- Spirit from JSU

Difference: 0.075

2005

12 -- 85.750 -- Spirit from JSU

13 -- 84.075 -- Colts

Difference: 1.675

2006

12 -- 85.275 -- Spirit from JSU

13 -- 83.050 -- Colts

Difference: 2.225

2007

12 -- 85.500 -- Spirit from JSU

13 -- 84.500 -- The Academy

Difference: 1.000

2008

12 -- 86.375 -- Madison Scouts

13 -- 85.950 -- Crossmen

Difference: 0.425

2009

12 -- 85.900 -- Troopers

13 -- 85.600 -- Colts

Difference: 0.300

2010

12 -- 86.500 -- Glassmen

13 -- 84.650 -- Colts

Difference: 0.850

2011

12 -- 86.500 -- Spirit of Atlanta

13 -- 83.400 -- Glassmen

Difference: 3.100

2012

12 -- 84.900 -- Crossmen

13 -- 84.600 -- Blue Stars

Difference: 0.300

If we group these by decade, the 12th and 13th place corps were separated by an average of:

1972-1981 -- 0.835

1982-1991 -- 0.630

1992-2001 -- 1.200

2002-2011 -- 1.025

So the past decade shows more competition between 12th and 13th than during the decade before, but not as much as in the two decades 1972-1991.

The smallest difference between 12th and 13th places, 0.000, i.e., a tie for 12th, was in 1977.

The largest difference between 12th and 13th places, 3.100, came just two years ago!

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The topic of the heat has come up a few times. I asked my son about it and he said it wasn't so much the heat as the dust.

So, I guess it really is a DRY heat.

BTW: Recaps are broken again, but I fully expect they will get things sorted out soon.

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