Cainan Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Speaking of having an unfinished project on the field.... I march with Kidsgrove Scouts. We are still missing about the last minute of our show. We lost to The Company last week and deserved to do so as we have an unfinished show. That said, when we have the full show on the field, I expect those results to change. Granted, we dont have spring training as we are all age, but still, this sort of stuff happens. In our case, our closer is Liturgical Dances. Anyone who knows that piece will know it is a MONSTER to learn and play. We decided that it was in the best interest of the corps and also the audience experience to only put out what we knew was worthwhile of the Kidsgrove Scouts name to do so, and I am certain this is the same case for the Blue Knights. Chill out everybody, all will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) BK had half a show...they should be happy with that result Better yet... BK should be THRILLED, that half a show not completed, did not lose 30 potential build up points. The judges had no ballz, imo. If BK only put put out " half their show ", with minutes of empty air as a result, it is a charade for anyone to believe that BK should have scored higher than a 45 or a 50 for " half a show " not even available for the judges to properly score. At what point to people begin to say to themselves, scoring like this is BS. Well, while some have arrived at this point, but it seems others will just about put up with anything, and think a Corps with only about " half the show" put on the field for competition, can score higher than a 45 or a 50. Even if the firsr half of the show is brilliant.. in every caption.., if the 2nd half or so is incomplete, it should lose half the potential build up points, AND be penalized for showing the judges essentially NOTHING in the 2nd half compared with others that had complete shows for the judges to score and evaluate. Undertime penalties ALONE, for each captions significantly filled with nothing but air, should tell any person with half a brain, that the judges whiffed bigtime with this. And anybody in DCI or here that wants to defend the BK score, then go ahead and try and defend the indefensible. Good luck, trying to defend this score in competition, where the competitor gave the judges only half their performance in competition, upon which the DCI judges last night were handing out build up points for what can only be accurately described as........ empty air. Edited June 25, 2016 by BRASSO 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tummygoat Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Better yet... BK should be THRILLED, that half a show not completed, did not lose 30 potential build up points. The judges had no ballz, imo. If BK only put put out " half their show ", with minutes of empty air as a result, it is a charade for anyone to believe that BD should have scored higher than a 45 or a 50 for " half a show " not even available for the judges to properly score. At what point to people begin to say to themselves, scoring like this is BS. Well, while some have arrived at this point, but it seems others will just about put up with anything, and think a Corps with only about " half the show" put on the field for competition, can score higher than a 45 or a 50. Even if the firsr half of the show is brilliant.. in every caption.., if the 2nd half or so is incomplete, it should lose half the potential build up points, AND be penalized for showing the judges essentially NOTHING in the 2nd half compared with others that had complete shows for the judges to score and evaluate. Undertime penalties ALONE, for each captions significantly filled with nothing but air, should tell any person with half a brain, that the judges whiffed bigtime with this. And anybody in DCI or here that wants to defend the BK score, then go ahead and try and defend the indefensible. Good luck, trying to defend this score in competition, where the competitor gave the judges half the competition, essentially empty air, upon which to give them build up points for the empty air. Who cares? It's June. These scores do not matter right now. Let them judge what's there as to what's not. Edited June 25, 2016 by Tummygoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emc2 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Better yet... BK should be THRILLED, that half a show not completed, did not lose 30 potential build up points. The judges had no ballz, imo. If BK only put put out " half their show ", with minutes of empty air as a result, it is a charade for anyone to believe that BD should have scored higher than a 45 or a 50 for " half a show " not even available for the judges to properly score. At what point to people begin to say to themselves, scoring like this is BS. Well, while some have arrived at this point, but it seems others will just about put up with anything, and think a Corps with only about " half the show" put on the field for competition, can score higher than a 45 or a 50. Even if the firsr half of the show is brilliant.. in every caption.., if the 2nd half or so is incomplete, it should lose half the potential build up points, AND be penalized for showing the judges essentially NOTHING in the 2nd half compared with others that had complete shows for the judges to score and evaluate. Undertime penalties ALONE, for each captions significantly filled with nothing but air, should tell any person with half a brain, that the judges whiffed bigtime with this. And anybody in DCI or here that wants to defend the BK score, then go ahead and try and defend the indefensible. Good luck, trying to defend this score in competition, where the competitor gave the judges only half their performance in competition, upon which the DCI judges last night were giving build up points for what can only be accurately described as........ empty air. I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 you can't really believe that BK are just lazing around in the field while everyone else is working hard... Here is a rehearsal day at the BK camp... No wonder I like them so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutchtow Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Lol, I just realized that with partial panels, we will be able to see the raw sub-caption scores of one caption each night, since there will be 2 GE, 1 music, and 2 visual, or 2 music and 1 visual, but since we know what captions are getting judged that night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammondbrass Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Wait, do Scouts have the only unamped solo this year (trumpet at the end of the opener)? Surely there must be more. Blue Stars also have an un-amped baritone solo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emc2 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Who cares? It's June. These scores do not matter right now. Let them judge what's there as to what's not. Yes scores do matter. The corps are spending $$$$$$$$$ of dollars. Go back and listen to POD cast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 . I mean, jeez, if you're not finished at least stand still and play the rest of your show. I. There is only a downside to this however. If you can receive build up points under the current judging system for providing just empty air, why play or march anything at all... even in a standstill..., when , by contrast, there is virtually no upside to receiving any more build up points than simply giving judges ( and the public ) empty air upon which to receive similar build up points ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 You can't rush art. I can, if I'm paying to see it. Imagine going to a Broadway show... which is performance art at a very high level... and seeing an incomplete show. Lots of folks would be demanding a refund. Why don't the same rules apply to any "art" performance that relies on ticket sales to survive? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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