BigW Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 hours ago, cixelsyd said: Rule 1 of network security is NEVER tell anyone your password. Frankly, if I had any say in hiring, anyone dumb enough to give their passwords to any third party would never work in my company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/22/2018 at 11:35 AM, Bluzes said: . Dci came fourth in the press release that their hires (dci staff) would need to give up their social media passwords This is false, ...as near as I can tell anyway. I went back and looked at DCI's press releases, and there is no requirement that DCI Corps staffs would " need to give up their social media passwords". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluzes Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, BRASSO said: This is false, ...as near as I can tell anyway. I went back and looked at DCI's press releases, and there is no requirement that DCI Corps staffs would " need to give up their social media passwords". You're correct this is what they said in the press release 12-10-18. They still need to define "review of a potential candidate’s online presence." May, not mean give up passwords, but will invade privacy one way or another. Must be where the "national resource" comes into play because the Corps just can be taking a peek during the interview and expect them all to do it effectively. To date, DCI has not identified a centralized or national resource that makes such information readily available to youth education and enrichment organizations like DCI and its participating organizations. In lieu of such a resource, DCI has adopted best practices governing its own hiring and volunteer selection processes, which now includes comprehensive reference checks and review of a potential candidate’s online presence. Edited January 1, 2019 by Bluzes typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Bluzes said: You're correct this is what they said in the press release 12-10-18. They still need to define "review of a potential candidate’s online presence." May, not mean give up passwords, but will invade privacy one way or another. The Press release from DCI is nothing more than.... print. Only time will tell if DCI's new procedures/ policies they'll further explore at DCI's Annual Congress later this month, then vote on, then implement, will provide an added layer of safety to MM's in the future. Its too early to determine what effect this will all have on issues relating to the innocents protection of their fundamental rights to privacy either, imo. DCI HQ also has remaining unresolved issues with current Corps apparently operating with personnel that seem at odds with their press releases on " misconduct not being tolerated". If DCI HQ still has people in leadership positions in membership Corps that have ( for just one example )reportedly paid a firm to hide a staffer's bad behaviors with youth in the past from others, then no amount of DCI HQ press release verbiage is going to persuade many people that DCI HQ has a real handle on the gravity of the situation, nor is really committed to the furtherance of policies designed to increase MM safety. Words are mere words. Action by DCI HQ explains the true reality far more than mere words from their press releases does, imo Edited January 1, 2019 by BRASSO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, Bluzes said: You're correct this is what they said in the press release 12-10-18. They still need to define "review of a potential candidate’s online presence." May, not mean give up passwords, but will invade privacy one way or another. Must be where the "national resource" comes into play because the Corps just can be taking a peek during the interview and expect them all to do it effectively. Review of online presence may just mean search of persons postings on social media. Unless DCI demands the person change their SM settings so DCI can get a better look it is not invasion of privacy as anyone can do the same. National resource might be DCIs clumsy way of saying search engines built for SM checking or a company that does the work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigW Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, JimF-LowBari said: Review of online presence may just mean search of persons postings on social media. Unless DCI demands the person change their SM settings so DCI can get a better look it is not invasion of privacy as anyone can do the same. National resource might be DCIs clumsy way of saying search engines built for SM checking or a company that does the work. I thought about it-can't really get into detail, but just by looking at various social media sites of a person, a lot can be found out just by what they present and say publicly without having to ask them for anything or hacking or knowing any passwords. Many connections can be made and dots connected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Just now, BigW said: I thought about it-can't really get into detail, but just by looking at various social media sites of a person, a lot can be found out just by what they present and say publicly without having to ask them for anything or hacking or knowing any passwords. Many connections can be made and dots connected. Yep and have heard from more than one person that their opinion of someone known for years changed once they friended them. Started getting all the posts that friend made and scary stuff came to light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Is anyone on here going to the big DCI pow-wow (aka Januals) later this month? Would be good to have a report that is not filtered through DCI. Would be even better to have someone there asking the hard questions 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skevinp Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, BigW said: I thought about it-can't really get into detail, but just by looking at various social media sites of a person, a lot can be found out just by what they present and say publicly without having to ask them for anything or hacking or knowing any passwords. Many connections can be made and dots connected. Senator McCarthy would have been thrilled to have access to such resources. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluzes Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 51 minutes ago, BigW said: I thought about it-can't really get into detail, but just by looking at various social media sites of a person, a lot can be found out just by what they present and say publicly without having to ask them for anything or hacking or knowing any passwords. Many connections can be made and dots connected. That is a good point and it can be done w/o dci invading privacy. The privacy that we have not already conceded to the Googles of the world, that is. Google already tracks our online activity and sells it at a price to ad agencies or whoever else buys the data. In reality, The Quaker Oats Company knows more about the staff than the Corps do. It is a scary situation when technology only works against you. Anyone can alter their online presence the word is out if you have something to hide this is now an option. Then when dci suggests using technology the innocents stand in the way of protecting the kids. Do we want a safe environment or to hold dci to the Bill of Rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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