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21 hours ago, keystone3ply said:

🤔?  😁🤠

 

 

This sounds more like crossed sabers and hurricane storms to me. Oh well. Stan Kenton moved from NY Kingsmen to Muchachos to Madison. Appalachian Spring and Young Person's got a reboot in Garfield so no brands are sacred. 

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On 8/20/2022 at 9:44 PM, nsxanax said:

Not unusual to continue the post mortem on the just completed season, on the upcoming year’s thread.

 So, if there’s one single aspect of RHRN that could have been changed/added/eliminated, that might have eked out just enough increase in score to put them in the medals, what say you?

This is a sincere query. More than a few of you regular contributors and frequent visitors have extensive knowledge and I find your comments to be extremely informative.
 

 This conversation is probably long dead but I haven't been on the forum in a while and am just now catching up.

This is beating a long dead horse but they easily should have dropped at least 55% of the "Right Here Right Now" statements in the voiceover, I think that it beat it into us way too much and if only used a couple times throughout the show with better timing could have added a much better touch to the show. For example, I would have kept the first two or three in around the opener, and I would have kept one in between the ballad and the closer, and then the chant that the entire corps did at the very end of the show. Keep it simple, and the effect is much more amplified. 

Secondly, I really think they should have added the Mello lick at the end of the closer. That would have added quite the touch in GE, and the crowd would have loved it (and frankly we were begging for it here the entire season too). From there I think that the streamers were a neat touch but the moment went on for too long, and honestly I believe that they took inspiration of that moment from Ronald Reagan's 2019 production (for those of you who don't pay much attention to HS marching shows I'd take a second to go give that one a watch to get what I am referencing) given the similarities that I noticed between those moments. I also am not sure exactly what that part of the show played into the overarching theme. 
 

I wish they had brought back the chandelier theme at some point in the show in the music or visually, because other than the short voiceover excerpt later on in the show there really wasn't much to tie the beginning of the show to the end of the show. One of the reasons why I think '13 landed so well with the crowd other than the immaculate brass execution was the show was very, very well put together in terms of the story line and seamlessly tied the opener to the closer. I was dying for another chandelier motif at the end of the show because I thought it was dearly needed. I love the fast geometrical drill and all, but the show didn't really resolve at all and just went b to the w all the way to the end, which if you are asking for a wall of sound with a lot of complicated drill is cool however I don't think it plays well to the judges in terms of overall general effect. 

The judges in '13 weren't only crying because of the execution by the brass, but also because of the writing itself tied in so well together that the story felt palpable. Crown needs a show with a palpable storyline again imo. It doesn't need to be the regurgitated story show that the former staff that is now at BAC is still doing, because that is long past now, but it definitely needs to be something more that both the marchers and the crowd can grasp onto. The most memorable shows in DCI history had a tangible story and concept for the crowd to grab a hold of with a flair of unique to them. The only show that I can think of that is memorable without that kind of story would be Bloo's DSU. 

'18 SCV, '15 Crown, '14 BD, '13 Crown, '11 Cadets, '08 Phantom, etc all had that kind of show that evoked those kinds of emotions and it worked every single time (other than the comparatively unfortunate finals run that Crown had in '15). That is what I think is needed for crown to win again. A simple yet complex show design with a theme that the marchers and crowd can fully grasp onto and invest themselves in. 

Sorry for the wall this ended up being a lot longer than I anticipated 😆

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On 8/22/2022 at 11:05 PM, ZTWright said:

A LOT of drill changes/edits to fix transitions.

Less fabric.

Better stowing of equipment.

More of a pop of color. Maybe more orange on the guard uniforms to tie into the brass sashes, which would have remained sashes. Them using them as links to each other just allowed for the judges to see how dirty the drill was, which is a HUGE mistake on the visual design staff's part.

Less "Right Here, Right Now"s throughout the show.

A reprise of Chandelier in the closer since it was heard in the opener, throughout the second movement, and the vocals at the beginning of the ballad. Don't tie it into the first 3 movements and then leave it be.

Adding in the 2013 Mello lick.

Less exposure, more full ensemble moments with more dynamic contrast. 

I also would have taken elements from their past shows and threw them in as Easter eggs. Could have had a mini version of the jungle gym and had a drum major raise it up at the end of the show a la 2012, the 2013 Mello lick, etc. The big moments from past shows that made you live in the "right here, right now" with Crown. 

Those are just a few of my ideas. I could rewatch the show and take notes for changes made in each movement, but I also don't have the time.

 Well I should have just read a few more pages, because you wrote my thoughts in a much more succinct manner. 

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On 9/9/2022 at 4:04 PM, WildcatMello said:

The staff should still be open to suggestions from the kids...the kids wouldn't have to say they got it from dcp...if it was something the kids feel could work they would know whether or not to approach the staff with ideas. 

There have been a few shows that I remember where mm ideas had an actual impact on the show itself, the most memorable being the vocal drum break from Cadets '05 (absolutely genius and hilarious to this day btw). Not sure if they have much impact on the show in this day and age, but I guess it also comes down to what kind of idea it is and what kind of staff there is at the corps. Some staff are probably more accepting of outside ideas than others, and others it just depends on the situation. Who knows. 

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Well—semi humble brag notwithstanding—I’ve re-upped for ‘23 NightBEAT CrownCLUB seats. 

Got $kin in the game now, so regardless of what ends up on the field this year, I should get to see’em in person—knock on wood for inclement wx—at least once this season.

And so for the first time from me in 2023….GO CROWN 🎼🥁🎺!!!

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On 2/28/2023 at 5:50 PM, karuna said:

 

Even 10 years out, that clip still chokes me up.

”That is SOO Good. That is SOOOOO Good.”

Yea. Like he said…

 

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March camp is this weekend, excited for MMs. Move-ins are only two months out!!!

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