IllianaLancerContra Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, cixelsyd said: Yes. And if you want to gauge the importance, suggest changing to equal compensation for all corps (WC and OC) and see what the reaction is. Or flip it - give the lower placing Corps the largest amount. They perhaps have the greatest need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 It is more effective to watch people campaign against equal compensation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingerland Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, cixelsyd said: Yes. And if you want to gauge the importance, suggest changing to equal compensation for all corps (WC and OC) and see what the reaction is. About the same if a baseball team decided that their highest salary should go to their least proven player. Rewarding accomplishment is ok. BD or PR or Cavaliers or Cadets, corps with 45+ Finals appearances, built the brand; So yes, it's not a lot of money, and yes, it's at least some way of providing the benefit that DCI was originally designed to provide. Those who want to complain can always form their own league. 😎 Edited October 6, 2023 by Slingerland 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Slingerland said: About the same if a baseball team decided that their highest salary should go to their least proven player. Already, the same poster calling revenue sharing a "relatively small portion" is now comparing it to something as essential as a "salary" the instant I suggest merely equalizing it across all corps. Thanks - that was too easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Holland Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 11 hours ago, cixelsyd said: Yes. And if you want to gauge the importance, suggest changing to equal compensation for all corps (WC and OC) and see what the reaction is. You mean giving OC more than… zero? We’ve been there. WC dislikes that. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingerland Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) On 10/6/2023 at 3:20 PM, cixelsyd said: Already, the same poster calling revenue sharing a "relatively small portion" is now comparing it to something as essential as a "salary" the instant I suggest merely equalizing it across all corps. Thanks - that was too easy. I get the smell of patchouli loud and clear, no worries. 5% of the annual budget is a relatively small portion of the most successful corps' annual revenues. It's just math. They've also invested in their infrastructure, they've made an effort to recruit and train staff and members to perform at a high level for a 40 or 50 or 60 year period. They literally built and founded DCI. It's how the world works. Sorry if that upsets the utopianians. As noted, they're welcome to form their own league with their own rules. Let's see how it goes. Edited October 8, 2023 by Slingerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I can only guess the new guy will have challenges old and new to deal with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 10:24 PM, Slingerland said: They've also invested in their infrastructure, they've made an effort to recruit and train staff and members to perform at a high level for a 40 or 50 or 60 year period. They literally built and founded DCI. It's how the world works. No, that is not how any of this works. No competitive sport on Earth awards money to teams based on whether they "invested in their infrastructure". DCI corps do not "recruit and train" staff - they hire seasonal staff whose training and qualifications are developed primarily in other places. As for who built/founded DCI, only one-third of the corps currently enjoying the benefits of DCI were there in 1972. There is a bigger issue. What you refer to in your earlier post as "the benefit that DCI was originally designed to provide" was to make touring sustainable, even for relatively new corps like the SCV or Troopers of 1970-1971, by replacing the prize money status-quo with guaranteed appearance fees for all tour participants. We never really achieved that. Instead, we made it sustainable for a small subset of corps by building tours on the backs of a larger set of participating corps - "haves" and "have-nots". Worse yet, as the decades passed, the increasingly exclusive nature of DCI membership and the silly revenue-sharing formula of rewarding corps for competitive results of 40-50 years ago has essentially brought us right back to where we started - too little prize money lavished on too few corps, and no way for relatively new corps to make touring sustainable. Quote As noted, they're welcome to form their own league with their own rules. Actually, they are not welcome to do that. DCI does not want any other drum corps leagues. And we have seen how cut-throat they can be when there is another drum corps league they want to bump off. Remember Drum Corps Midwest? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcorpsfever Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 A hard job just got a whole lot harder. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 35 minutes ago, drumcorpsfever said: A hard job just got a whole lot harder. I wonder if Nate feels like Rhea Jarrell this morning? (A reference for you “Succession” fans) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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