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1 hour ago, kdaddy said:

I can only assume that is rooted in whatever GH heard in that Hershey Ramada Inn ballroom.

Oh 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. Take it that’s the RI off I-81 by Linglestown/Paxtonia exit. Drive by there when going to my parents old house… next time will be tomorrow. 🥵

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4 minutes ago, MitchwithdaSticks said:

Drum Corps intrigue and machinations.... subject for a screenplay. 

To quote an ex-boss (RIP) “you can’t write this ####, no one will believe it”. Irony is his daughter had to drop out of Cadets due to health issue. Later caught corps members here saying “well then she wasn’t Cadets material”. 

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3 hours ago, HockeyDad said:

I see comparisons to a tragic Shakespearean figure or a Greek tragedy to be glamorizing.  Maybe that’s just me. I see a snake oil salesman who finally got caught. 

I didn’t intend to glamorize him. I was long-winded and unclear to you, and you were succinct. I agree with you. I wish they’d caught him sooner, before he attacked more people. Secondarily, maybe then this corps would have a future.

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2 hours ago, camel lips said:

Nailed it! 

Sad part is I feel certain Hopkins has a bunch of sock puppet accounts and uses them to glorify himself on these social media sites and forums and he has lackeys that do his bidding for him that think just because of the creativity he created that THAT is what they believed in and followed is WHY they want to follow him into the hounds of hell. 

I follow him to watch the Shakespearean tragedy.  It's kind of like watching NASCAR at the Daytona or Talladega tracks.  (You know it's coming.)  You can also identify the members of the cult.  😡😬😄    

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2 hours ago, cjthekid said:

Is that a thread or a PM I'd like to read it

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4 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

 

i remember at OC finals in 2002, at retreat they had age outs giving speeches, and the Cadets kids all sounded like brainwashed clones, saying they wouldn't be where they were without the corps and him. my group and people around us rolled our eyes. 

 

This reminds me of a scene early on in "The Manchurian Candidate."

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4 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

i don't see glamorizing though. i see some comparisons yes, and face it....for all the bad, there was good too.  if not for him in 1980 recruiting down south, the corps probably dies. it possible for someone to do good things and still be a vile excuse of a human being at the same time. history is littered with examples. when it comes to him, really, in a way it's like the judge said to CAE...ya gotta take the good with the bad. for all the bad, you can't just cancel out the good. it just means you hammer the bad that much more.

 

i remember at OC finals in 2002, at retreat they had age outs giving speeches, and the Cadets kids all sounded like brainwashed clones, saying they wouldn't be where they were without the corps and him. my group and people around us rolled our eyes. but the next 3 nights we all went ####### over the corps performance.

 

and thus is the conflicted legacy the organization and the corps suffered from for years here, RAMD, Soundmachine and everyone else.....how do you separate the greatness on the field from him? it was ###### hard, and this was before 6 years ago this week. Add on the messes after Scott was pushed out, the lady losing lawsuits over a fraudulent charity being brought in, moving 5 hours further away from the loyal alumni base, and boom here we are. So much on field greatness reduced by off field mismanagement and literal crime. and a lawsuit, against someone that isn't him, at a non corps sponsored event was the final straw.

 

so maybe you understand the conflict people have. i'm not and never have been enamored or under the sway. i've advised kids going in what to expect. i wouldnt talk them out of it if their heart desired it, but i wanted them prepared for what they may encounter. i know someone that ended up teaching there trying to talk kids out of going there a few years prior. Heros often fall hard, and thats what you're seeing people express right now. Amazingly the corps survived at all after 18.

I find myself with many mixed emotions and am a survivor. I appreciate what you have said here. It’s true, I walked away from the activity with good and bad memories/experiences. The good does not take away the crimes, it’s not like a math equation, but you have to accept that someone who was a criminal also helped create some pretty phenomenal performances. The emotions are messy. 

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