IllianaLancerContra Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Although it approaches blaspheme, I have to say Star 91. They may have been the best that season, but they were not the best that night - even Rondo alluded to this on the video. Up in the stands (side 2, top row, right under the last light-pole, we were convinced that Cavies had won their first (DCI anyway) championship. On a more philosophical note, it seems that corps are now rewarded more for their entire season at DCI, rather than for what is on the field the night of finals. Part of this may be due to the changes in the judging system build-up vs mix of build up & mark down (ticks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brichtimp Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Although it approaches blaspheme, I have to say Star 91. They may have been the best that season, but they were not the best that night - even Rondo alluded to this on the video. Up in the stands (side 2, top row, right under the last light-pole, we were convinced that Cavies had won their first (DCI anyway) championship. On a more philosophical note, it seems that corps are now rewarded more for their entire season at DCI, rather than for what is on the field the night of finals. Part of this may be due to the changes in the judging system build-up vs mix of build up & mark down (ticks). Had that been true in 2014, Bluecoats would have been Bronze on finals night. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I remember GH saying SCV under Gayle Royer was the corps he wanted The Cadets to emulate. He was drawn to the complexities and virtuosity of that corps in particular. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tad_MMA Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I remember GH saying SCV under Gayle Royer was the corps he wanted The Cadets to emulate. He was drawn to the complexities and virtuosity of that corps in particular. That was mentioned on the Cadets' 20th Anniversary 3-peat video. They talked of the 70s/early 80s SCV being the Class Act, and then it was said that, "...and they weren't going to let you forget that, either." Snarky? Perhaps. I wasn't there. I do remember GRoyer's t-shirt in 1987 that read (front) "One at a time" and (back) "Who's next?" The assumption was a mid-season celebration of being unbeaten. The diff between that and post-season Garfield was that the Cadets didn't print shirts with the SCV logo on the front and "WE were next!" on the back. Class indeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 GH definitely had enormous respect for Gayle Royer and Don Angelica. Those were the two guys that inspired (Royer) and nurtured (Angelica) him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Cadets have always been a class act on the field despite GH and his antics and he knows he comes across obnoxious at times but that corps..all class. Love it when they win and not move on retreat vs. other less classy groups joint around high fiving like drunk sailors coming out of a brothel, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Love it when they win and not move on retreat Hope I'm around to see BAC win. Talk about statues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perc2100 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Although it approaches blaspheme, I have to say Star 91. They may have been the best that season, but they were not the best that night - even Rondo alluded to this on the video. Up in the stands (side 2, top row, right under the last light-pole, we were convinced that Cavies had won their first (DCI anyway) championship. On a more philosophical note, it seems that corps are now rewarded more for their entire season at DCI, rather than for what is on the field the night of finals. Part of this may be due to the changes in the judging system build-up vs mix of build up & mark down (ticks). 1. NOTHING is blaspheme in a discussion of preference provided you have good discourse about why 2. Interesting thought about being rewarded for entire season. The difficulty of a judge is there can be rubric & guidelines and such, but they're still human. If a corps is absolutely amazing several times when you see them, and has a not-as-perfect run Finals night, it wouldn't be out-of-the-norm for that judge to build upon his previous experience seeing the group. They've often seen a show develop, improve, change, etc. throughout the season and has a deeper understanding of the show because of that. I do know judges who have judged DCI, saw one corps implement changes and put them on top in their caption, while another corps still had some issues & had not implemented changes yet (that's a goofy explanation, and w/out giving away a judge or group I hope it's not too confusing). I do know there are judges who might have difficulty separating potentially extraneous information for "in-the-now" of the performance and I get how that can be difficult. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Had that been true in 2014, Bluecoats would have been Bronze on finals night. OK maybe, but let's look at it from another angle. If BD had choked (like, say 1989) and Bluecoats performed as they did, would 'Coats have won? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 1. NOTHING is blaspheme in a discussion of preference provided you have good discourse about why 2. Interesting thought about being rewarded for entire season. The difficulty of a judge is there can be rubric & guidelines and such, but they're still human. If a corps is absolutely amazing several times when you see them, and has a not-as-perfect run Finals night, it wouldn't be out-of-the-norm for that judge to build upon his previous experience seeing the group. They've often seen a show develop, improve, change, etc. throughout the season and has a deeper understanding of the show because of that. I do know judges who have judged DCI, saw one corps implement changes and put them on top in their caption, while another corps still had some issues & had not implemented changes yet (that's a goofy explanation, and w/out giving away a judge or group I hope it's not too confusing). I do know there are judges who might have difficulty separating potentially extraneous information for "in-the-now" of the performance and I get how that can be difficult. Re: #2 It has often been said that "10's" given by some judges in Championships are just such rewards, especially when it is the last time the judge adjudicates the corps this season (e.g. prelims, semis.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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