garfield Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 Pardon me, I'm certainly no businessperson; I should have said expenditures, or possibly income (but I'm not even sure of that), not revenues. The corps has quite high expenditures as compared to other organizations. The bingo hall in particular had lost its viability in recent years, and turned into a net operating loss for the corps (which I understand is becoming more and more common, sadly). We'll see expenses coming up in a few posts. But I think the revenue numbers above confirm your comments that their bingo operation has faltered in recent years. Is the casino open in Toledo yet? The Columbus casino opened just a month or so ago. Possibly that's why bingo failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
va9590jm Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 If you're talking specifically about Program Service Expenses, I'll show those here beginning a little later tonight, and we should be able to verify your hunch when we look at the rest of 13 to 17 to 22. Wait...we havn't finished the top 12 yet, either! When's that going to happen as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Wait...we havn't finished the top 12 yet, either! When's that going to happen as well? We did finish the top-12, except that Spirit's numbers are not available, so we did DCI and the Top-11, then skipped to Glassmen. Or did I miss someone? :blink:/>/> Click the link in post 738 to see the summary spreadsheet of the top-11. Edited December 19, 2012 by garfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerguy315 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) We did finish the top-12, except that Spirit's numbers are not available, so we did DCI and the Top-11, then skipped to Glassmen. Or did I miss someone? :blink:/>/>/>/>/> Click the link in post 738 to see the summary spreadsheet of the top-11. did you do Crossmen? Spirit finished 11th last year. or you might be going by another "top 12" ranking, which is fine, just might be what is confusing the other poster. Edited December 19, 2012 by soccerguy315 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 did you do Crossmen? Spirit finished 11th last year. or you might be going by another "top 12" ranking, which is fine, just might be what is confusing the other poster. I thought I was losing my mind there for a moment... We're recapping the 2011 finishing order to align with the available 990s. The 2012's won't be available until next year. Crossmen are coming up in another two or three corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerguy315 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I thought I was losing my mind there for a moment... We're recapping the 2011 finishing order to align with the available 990s. The 2012's won't be available until next year. Crossmen are coming up in another two or three corps. good explanation... i'm sure you said that at some point about 80 pages ago, haha. Now I am on the same page as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobrien Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Net Income from gaming activities 2009: $107,252 2010: $71,130 2011: $7,310 In a word, ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Pardon me, I'm certainly no businessperson; I should have said expenditures, or possibly income (but I'm not even sure of that), not revenues. The corps has quite high expenditures as compared to other organizations. The bingo hall in particular had lost its viability in recent years, and turned into a net operating loss for the corps (which I understand is becoming more and more common, sadly). Gaming laws vary from state to state; but for the most part the restrictions placed on bingo programs operated by non-profits versus the liberal "courtesies" allowed under gaming (bingo) laws for Native American (as example) operations makes it almost totally impossible to compete for the same clientele. Except for geographic small pockets nationally; non-profit bingo is dead, or at a minimum, a fading shadow of itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 The Glassmen Expenses Compensation of Officers, Directors, Trustees, Key Employees, etc Note: Glassmen listed 12 of the above in 2009, eight in 2010, and 7 in 2011. In all years, only the ED, Brian Hickman, is shown as receiving a salary. 2009: $65,333 2010: $56,500 2011: $37,067 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 The Glassmen Statement of Functional Expenses (Note: Line item Expenses are broken down in three categories: Program Service Expenses (PSE), Management and General Expenses (MGE) and Fundraising Expenses (FRE). Each entry can be divided into one or more of these categories.) Other Salaries and wages 2009: PSE: $170,393 2010: PSE: $155,855 2011: PSE: $121,587 Occupancy 2009: MGE: $70,530 2010: MGE: $58,245 2011: MGE: $53,080 Travel 2009: PSE: $185,320, MGE: $1,978, Total: $187,298 2010: PSE: $186,874, MGE: $1,176, Total: $188,050 2011: PSE: $180,495, MGE: $1,230, Total: $181,725 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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