Cappybara Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I think that caption awards should also be for Saturday night only, not just the overall winner. We don't average the whole season's results to get the caption award, so why should we for 3 days? Whoever has the best show by the end of the season should win, period. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 No less than the great Donald Angelica proposed this procedure in the early 80's. His rationale was that due to the tightening of scores and subjectivity of the decisions, the true measure of excellence would have been cumulative over the qualifying and final events. More judge's options would be considered, higher statistical validity and reliability, and increased fan drama over the duration of Championships. Related variables were things like only announcing the rankings each night (no scores to public), juxtaposing the performance order in different ways, etc.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancidrolla Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I think that caption awards should also be for Saturday night only, not just the overall winner. We don't average the whole season's results to get the caption award, so why should we for 3 days? Whoever has the best show by the end of the season should win, period. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 DCI is certainly a little schizophrenic about scoring in Indy. Captions are averaged but championships are one night only. Strangely enough I'm ok with it. Reward consistency in the caption awards. Reward the show of the evening at finals. We just need to make sure the finals panel is actually qualified to judge their caption No less than the great Donald Angelica proposed this procedure in the early 80's. His rationale was that due to the tightening of scores and subjectivity of the decisions, the true measure of excellence would have been cumulative over the qualifying and final events. More judge's options would be considered, higher statistical validity and reliability, and increased fan drama over the duration of Championships. Related variables were things like only announcing the rankings each night (no scores to public), juxtaposing the performance order in different ways, etc.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Blue Devil Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Caption awards are awarded to the section of the corps that is the most consistent, thereby making them the best skill and bookwise. The Founder's Trophy is awarded to the corps that puts out the best performance on the night where it matters the most, since that's whats important as an overall corps. At least, that's how I've always rationalized it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjordansc Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Our activity is not like sports. Sports have definable scores for definable actions. Drum corps is a new set of subjective eyes awarding subjective points based on a sheet they designed. You can't compare the two, IMO. The "Best" in our activity is the highest score on Saturday night, and I'm really very fine with that. Some sports are judged. Figure skating, some X-game sports, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbandguy Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 A Modest Proposal, Part 3: Bluecoats Win 2015 1) All corps that have previously won a DCI championship will incur a .25 deduction for every year they have won a title... Blue Devils score is 93.650 Crown score is 96.815 Bluecoats score is 96.925 BLUECOATS WIN 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon8 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 ...Whoever has the best show by the end of the season should win, period. And therein lies the dilemma. Do we reward the best show by the end of the season or the best show of the season? (I'm not advocating in favor of averaging myself, just posing the question.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Good point. The twelfth-place Finals corps often has a lower score than the thirteenth-place Semifinals corps. Yup. Fewer corps means more numbers to work with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 And therein lies the dilemma. Do we reward the best show by the end of the season or the best show of the season? (I'm not advocating in favor of averaging myself, just posing the question.) The job of the judges is to judge their sheet and the show of the day and let the tabulator sort it out. Captions should be the same way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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