Ghost Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Boston can't be feeling too bad about the G7, considering how much they spent to fly BD out to their show last year. And the BD were to repay the charges over the course of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumManTx Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) Michael Townsend is staying with the Academy Yay! Really hope so. I definitely wouldn't be complaining to see his influence in more the one corps. Edited August 20, 2016 by DrumManTx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 The Gulfstream 650!!!!! The longest range of any corporate jet on the planet!!! AND the 2nd fastest corporate jet that you can own next to the Citation X. Boston is going after the Aerion SBJ. http://www.supersonic-business-jet.com/prototypes/aerion_sbj.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 There's a lot more than money that drives people to want to try something new. They may like what they were told what the corps future plans are and how much freedom they will have to do what mgmt. wants. No micro managing maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Ghost would you like to retract your betrayal post from last week over in the BAC thread?....LOL I don't think they were in the betrayal category so I'll live with them and try to keep future frustrations in check. As mentioned elsewhere, us moving to the "show me state" is on hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liahona Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Boston is going after the Aerion SBJ. http://www.supersonic-business-jet.com/prototypes/aerion_sbj.php Supersonic is all well in good, but that couldn't hold everyone at BAC. How about one of Boeing's new 787 Boeing Business Jets (BBJ). Only for the 0.01%... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skevinp Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I can't wait until next week when I find out the entire Blue Devils staff has been poached by the Troopers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Supersonic is all well in good, but that couldn't hold everyone at BAC. How about one of Boeing's new 787 Boeing Business Jets (BBJ). Only for the 0.01%... And a huge plane like that has been designed to hold many fewer passengers than the passenger version. A Saudi prince might have one that sleeps 6-8 maybe (?) and the rest of the passengers get reclining seats. I'm not into planes like you are, so my estimates may be way out of wack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 There's a lot more than money that drives people to want to try something new. Not sure where I said otherwise. But the universal solvent can make things slide oh so much easier, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwillis35 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) No offense, but you have no idea what the __ you're talking about. BD's staff is homegrown. They DEVELOPED those people. Cavaliers, at the time the G7 came along, had a long history of alums running their program for little or NO pay. Regiment is not known as a high-roller. Crown and Bluecoats both know what it means to stretch a dollar into a dollar twenty. SCV has a reputation for being one of the most professionally-managed organizations in the activity, a rep that goes back to the 1970s. YEA pays one person well, but their staff has a history of working as hard as anyone in the activity for not that much money. None of them have ever bought their way to a title. They developed their staff and management teams to get there. Good luck to Boston, it would be great to see them competing again as a top tier corps (really, it would). But there's no point trying to pretend that the most competitively successful corps in the modern era got where they are by simply buying talent for more money than the smaller corps could afford. They didn't. I beg to differ with this notion. The Blue Devils initially got a number of their instructors from the Santa Clara Vanguard, including Wayne Downey. They picked up Todd Ryan after Star of Indiana left the activity (a huge piece in their modern success). Santa Clara grabbed some of Bluecoats brass staff, Phantom's drum staff, and Phantom's music arranger not that long ago. Star of Indiana grabbed George Zingali, Thom Hannum, Jim Prime, Jr from Garfield. Garfield Cadets grabbed Zingali from 27th Lancers. Every corps out there has offered contracts, or at least showed interest, in staff that were with other corps. It's not poaching, as someone else wrote, when those instructors might be in the last year of their contracts. If the executive director isn't able to shore up a new contract with said instructor/designer before the Sunday after Finals, then that person is a free agent. Simple. At that point they can talk to who they wish and sign with who offers the best deal for them. These instructors and designers are not on multi-year revolving contracts. At some point they come to an end. It's not easy to keep a great teacher or designer locked into a long-term deal. Eventually they will let their contract expire to see what negotiations bring, or to see what else is out there. The designer and caption head life on the road and in the process of developing a show is not an easy life. It's filled with a lot of travel, a ton of work, trial and error, plenty of arguments and opinions, and often times paychecks that are not nearly as big as some think. It's only natural that after so many years with one group that a designer/instructor might feel exhausted from the process and the long work hours. We can say things like "our staff is homegrown," but that is misleading. The Blue Devils can do it more than others because they have more full-time positions and can bring people into the fold and work with them until they are ready. For most drum corps out there the staff, designers, and teachers on their payroll have likely worked with many other units. Some work with multiple units on any given year. Klesch and Bocook have often written brass books for multiple corps. I think this idea that people have been poached, stolen, or that some sort of evil process has taken place needs to stop. Simply put, this was likely a year where a number of highly-touted staff came to the end of their run with some great corps. Perhaps they all spoke with each other over the course of the tour (I'm sure they all know each other) and decided it was time for a new challenge. Who knows. Good for Boston! I am elated for them. They did nothing wrong. They hired some fabulous designers and teachers who had become free agents. That's what you're supposed to do if you have the cash. Edited August 20, 2016 by jwillis35 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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