PamahoNow Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Now we know, SCV has on the same night, but a continent away tied the Bluecoats. Still more than a week until they meet head to head. I will see them at the three subsequent meetings, and BD as well! Looking forward to it. Until then, I'm still tracking the Bluecoats against their 3 traveling partners: Boston is the only one making a move! Bluecoats Crown Margin 6/21/2018 70.300 70.000 0.300 6/23/2018 71.600 70.600 1.000 6/25/2018 74.200 73.350 0.850 7/1/2018 79.050 77.950 1.100 7/2/2018 80.400 78.950 1.450 7/5/2018 81.650 80.400 1.250 7/7/2018 82.700 81.350 1.350 Bluecoats Boston Margin 6/21/2018 70.300 67.300 3.000 6/25/2018 74.200 71.300 2.900 6/28/2018 76.400 73.800 2.600 7/1/2018 79.050 76.850 2.200 7/2/2018 80.400 77.700 2.700 7/3/2018 80.900 79.300 1.600 (!) No Crown 7/5/2018 81.650 79.000 2.650 7/7/2018 82.700 80.900 1.800 (!) With Crown Bluecoats Cadets Margin 6/23/2018 71.600 66.900 4.700 6/28/2018 76.400 71.400 5.000 6/30/2018 78.300 73.200 5.100 7/1/2018 79.050 73.800 5.250 7/2/2018 80.400 76.000 4.400 7/3/2018 80.900 77.100 3.800 7/5/2018 81.650 76.700 4.950 7/7/2018 82.700 77.400 5.300 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, PamahoNow said: Now we know, SCV has on the same night, but a continent away tied the Bluecoats. Still more than a week until they meet head to head. I will see them at the three subsequent meetings, and BD as well! Looking forward to it. Until then, I'm still tracking the Bluecoats against their 3 traveling partners: Boston is the only one making a move! Bluecoats Crown Margin 6/21/2018 70.300 70.000 0.300 6/23/2018 71.600 70.600 1.000 6/25/2018 74.200 73.350 0.850 7/1/2018 79.050 77.950 1.100 7/2/2018 80.400 78.950 1.450 7/5/2018 81.650 80.400 1.250 7/7/2018 82.700 81.350 1.350 Bluecoats Boston Margin 6/21/2018 70.300 67.300 3.000 6/25/2018 74.200 71.300 2.900 6/28/2018 76.400 73.800 2.600 7/1/2018 79.050 76.850 2.200 7/2/2018 80.400 77.700 2.700 7/3/2018 80.900 79.300 1.600 (!) No Crown 7/5/2018 81.650 79.000 2.650 7/7/2018 82.700 80.900 1.800 (!) With Crown Bluecoats Cadets Margin 6/23/2018 71.600 66.900 4.700 6/28/2018 76.400 71.400 5.000 6/30/2018 78.300 73.200 5.100 7/1/2018 79.050 73.800 5.250 7/2/2018 80.400 76.000 4.400 7/3/2018 80.900 77.100 3.800 7/5/2018 81.650 76.700 4.950 7/7/2018 82.700 77.400 5.300 Waldo is hungry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingusmonk Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 11 hours ago, Jim Schehr said: The drum book is written to capture the feel of the jazz idiom and not your traditional layering of rudiments within the ensemble. Bloo has a lot of environmental and physical demands due to staging and visual design. A traditional written approach with different rudiment signatures would be in direct contrast with the jazz idiom and feel. Many of these percussion judges are expecting rudiment signatures spread across percussion voices, that’s not what Bloo is laying down for an entire production. There are certainly elements of that but it’s not the basis of the writing. I would suggest that the percussion judges listen to the musical phrasing as a cohesive jazz musical idiom and stop wanting to hear a bunch of rim shots and double paradiddle diddles and triplet rolls. Trust me Bloo is plenty clean with their jazz stylization approach. As with most of what Bloo does it’s ahead of the times. This is why Thrower has frequently stated "Drum Corps Swing" is an oxymoron. Performing excellence within the jazz idiom is typically not recognized and fully rewarded. The comprehension and vocabulary of the entirety of the judging base is not always deep enough to get it right. This is why, when I found out this year's rep, I knew they would be fantastic. Doug would not have gone in on it if he didn't feel like they were special enough to overcome the barrier. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3PoC Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Percussion book is very dynamic, and nuanced and definitely not as ostentatious as the lines in their tier. No ninja slams or ram and stomps as it wouldn't be musical in a jazz show. They're more like cool cats than viscous beasts. They'll need to really polish the clarity of musical intent to get those numbers where they'd like but the caption scores are still volatile and Bloo has topped both BAC and Cadets in perc (beat both last Monday) more than once. They may be quite the long shot for a Sanford, but I don't think they'll be a drag on the overall corps placement. I do hope there is some juicy perc bits included in the stuff they'll add in when they get to Little Rock! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCWVUFAN Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 People keep mentioning Crowns drumline in '13 being 6th and the corp still winning the title, several things contributed to that may not apply this year. 1) BD had a hideous show were they bastardized the Rite of Spring fusing jazz into what is considered the piece that brought modern expressionism to the orchestra, if they would have played JUST the Rite of Spring....they would have won. 2) Cadets had a good show but had phasing problems all year with the Barber piece and their guard wasn't very good. Crown had a great hornline and guard coupled with High GE scores pushed them to 1st place. Bloo may not have the best hornline or guard, they are both very good and should be close to top if they aren't the best scoring in those captions, but is that enough. I would think that placing 2nd or third in those captions but still scoring very close to the top performers in those captions keeps Bloo in the running, providing they sweep GE and visual captions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precious Roy Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Is there still critique, or some other meeting between judges and corps show designers, either before or after a competition? Could this be a case where a first viewing judge scores them down a bit? But then input from Bluecoats suggests they should be scored as a Jazz ensemble (rather than more typical DCI percussion ensemble) would cause a relative bump up in scoring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamahoNow Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, Precious Roy said: Is there still critique, or some other meeting between judges and corps show designers, either before or after a competition? Could this be a case where a first viewing judge scores them down a bit? But then input from Bluecoats suggests they should be scored as a Jazz ensemble (rather than more typical DCI percussion ensemble) would cause a relative bump up in scoring? Yes, there is usually critique, and unless I am wrong, I know the staff member who attends critique, and he is very able to express what Bluecoats are attempting to do with each caption. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, PamahoNow said: Yes, there is usually critique, and unless I am wrong, I know the staff member who attends critique, and he is very able to express what Bluecoats are attempting to do with each caption. Let's see. The corps is dressed in jazz type attire; the props fit a jazz theme; the show is called Session 44; the brass is playing jazz arranged music; the guard is performing jazz type stuff; and the singer sounds like a singer in a smoked filled room. A percussion judge better be expecting jazz styled playing. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, NCWVUFAN said: 1) BD had a hideous show were they bastardized the Rite of Spring fusing jazz into what is considered the piece that brought modern expressionism to the orchestra, if they would have played JUST the Rite of Spring....they would have won. What in the world lmao. Just SMH at this. Rite of Spring has been done numerous times. Not sure if we should be faulting corps for being creative instead of rehashing over and over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Ghost said: Let's see. The corps is dressed in jazz type attire; the props fit a jazz theme; the show is called Session 44; the brass is playing jazz arranged music; the guard is performing jazz type stuff; and the singer sounds like a singer in a smoked filled room. A percussion judge better be expecting jazz styled playing. Well, you know drummers. Edited July 8, 2018 by Terri Schehr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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