How About Some Common Ground?

[Terri Schehr]

35 minutes ago, Cappybara said:

Live look into Bobby 

[Terri Schehr]

 

[Tim K]

1 hour ago, Bobby L. Collins said:

As I suspected.

You dishonor the spirit of the activity, and the memories of those who built everything you have helped destroy.  And it sickens me that you are complicit in the suppression of criticism of said dishonor by abusing your moderation powers in order to make this an echo chamber for the George Hopkins fan club.

While there are many Cadets supporters on DCP, and no doubt some who are supporters of George Hopkins, I would hardly call DCP an echo chamber of  the George Hopkins fan club. 

[Stu]

2 hours ago, MikeD said:

No problem calling them drum corps. 

 

1 hour ago, Jim Schehr said:

I'm not convinced that they should be called drum corps, believe band corps would be more appropriate. 

They use drums; They are a corps of people playing instruments; They are a drum corps. That by definition is a true statement.

They engage in marching; They are a band of people playing instruments; They are a marching band. That by definition is also a true statement.

They are a band of people playing instruments; They are a corps of people playing instruments; They are a band corps. That is by definition true, but also sort of redundant.

Edited August 27, 2017 by Stu

[garfield]

3 hours ago, Bobby L. Collins said:

Which may ultimately result in even more outrageous, over-the-top abuse of A&E utilized by corps for as long as it's sanctioned.  If they fail to recognize that even their staunchest fanboys are beginning to say "Um, guys, we love you and all, but.......don't you think all this A&E is starting to get out of hand?", then they risk alienating what's left of the hands that feed them.  You're seeing that sentiment here, you're seeing it in r/drumcorps, you're seeing it on Facebook, and you're even seeing it peppered among the comments of YouTube videos.  "I love modern drum corps, BUT....", or "I agree they need to reign in the A&E, BUT....."(each followed by meaningless words that contradict everything they typed prior to "but").

I mean, there's not that much farther to go in order to achieve Hopkins' ultimate vision for the activity.  He got rid of the bugles.  He got microphones and speakers approved.  He got synthesizers approved.  He got amplified singers and choirs approved. He got wireless mics and audio engineers approved.  He even got Cesario's ballerina costumes approved.  He changed the activity from "music and marching" to "CONSTANT, OVERPOWERING MOTION AND CAMPY DANCING, with a little music underneath the synths".  All that's really left on his checklist is marching woodwinds, and that's coming.

How much longer are sunshine-pumping fanboys going to ignore and deflect criticism of aspects of the activity they themselves abhor?  How much longer will hardcore fans and supporters of corps look the other way while a small number of individuals are sabotaging the very ethos of drum corps and ruining the longevity of the activity?  And I'm not just talking about Hopkins. I know many of you consider yourselves diehard fans and supporters of drum corps.  If that's true, then why don't you stop looking at the activity with the eyes of a blindingly loyal sycophant, and start looking at it objectively, with a little foresight and common sense?

And at the very least, can we also agree that a little foresight and common sense wouldn't hurt this activity?  Or are we going fundamentally disagree on that as well?

 

See, his basic premise is that there are "grumblings".  Of course there are grumblings.  There have been grumblings since the beginning of drum corps time.

Let's stop giving in to the notion that the sky is falling because drum corps isn't the same thing it's been since, well, since I marched.

Let's stop believing the "Bobby's" of the activity who are angry at everything and willing to toss bombs here.  The sky is not falling. 

There are more corps, and more feeder corps, and more starter corps now than in 25 years.  Let's not let the doomsayers ruin it for the rest of us.

 

[Stu]

16 minutes ago, garfield said:

Of course there are grumblings.  There have been grumblings since the beginning of drum corps time.

THE FIRST ANGRY DCI FAN

Edited August 27, 2017 by Stu

[Ghost]

22 minutes ago, Stu said:

THE FIRST ANGRY DCI FAN

This video looks familiar.

[Terri Schehr]

50 minutes ago, Stu said:

THE FIRST ANGRY DCI FAN

[xandandl]

3 hours ago, Bobby L. Collins said:

And what are youA doing?  Trying to use whatever headline you just read on the news as a false equivalency.   Where's YOUR generous contribution to flood relief?

For that matter, where's your generous contribution to Les Stentors?  At least THAT is relevant here.

Look up Matt. 6: 3.

I have been in email contact conversation with the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston since Friday. God bless you.

You seem like a most angry man whenever you post. There are doctors who can help with that. 

Edited August 28, 2017 by xandandl

[xandandl]

3 hours ago, Bobby L. Collins said:

And what are you doing?  Trying to use whatever headline you just read on the news as a false equivalency.   Where's YOUR generous contribution to flood relief?

For that matter, where's your generous contribution to Les Stentors?  At least THAT is relevant here.

Posted by Hookem on the Cavaliers thread within this hour:

Hey guys.... Here is a quick update. My apartment complex is flooded and the water is rising. Thankfully the water has not reached my part yet... Either way, I am on the third floor so I am safe and I am not worried... Spent the day getting people out of their flooded homes... I did post some pictures on Facebook, but this is the worst storm I have ever been through. Much worse than Allison. No doubt about it..... I had to swim to help people

But if anyone here can help me out with starting a fundraiser or what ever on this page as relief for the people that lost their homes... I would appreciate that. Thanks guys"