The future of the Cadets

[year1buick]

41 minutes ago, Tim K said:

The food rumors and overwork rumors have been around for years. I have not heard marching members complain about overwork, I have heard complaints about lack of food from marching members when they visit food establishments and convenience stores near competition sites. Now I would have heard these things in Lynn or Allentown, all places where information can be overheard and can spread quickly. I have never inspected the food trucks of Cadets, so I have no way of speaking about portion size or quality of food served by Cadets, but the lack of food rumors may come from marching members themselves, who said things within earshot of the wrong ears.

When I marched, the Sky Ryders food truck wasn’t exactly Zagat rated. Every lunch consisted of bologna (one per member) and liquified PB&J (all you could eat.) It sucked but it got us down the road.

edit: Admittedly, we weren’t so pragmatic about it at the time.

Edited April 27, 2018 by year1buick

[2000Cadet]

7 hours ago, BDAMom said:

It’s no secret BD has it really good and yes, it works for them. I’ll never stop being grateful for this organization. Ever. Neither will my kid-now-adult.

Not sure where the Cadets rumors came from. Perhaps it is this comparison with other corps that isn’t lost on the kids. Just know the Cadets org wasn’t for us. 

 

2 hours ago, Liahona said:

The lack of food rumors with the Cadets (at least the last 10 years) sounds to me like a bunch of propaganda from disgruntled folks with agendas...

Most of us who actually marched KNOW that to participate in this activity..especially in the modern era...members burn a tremendous amount of calories on the field over the course of a summer...even if the members are well fed...they are probably still going to lose weight...just look at all the selfie before/after photos DCI promotes every year...

There are a lot more serious issues here than food deprivation...

I can't speak on what has been going on in recent Cadets times, but I can say that my first season marching there, although it was very tough for me, I feel that we still ate relatively well. Sleep however, was a different story. And I think they made a lot of changes to that in the 2000 season. We got more floor time, and although we rehearsed quite a bit, the staff did much better in 2000 than in 1999 with allowing us to rest more, take more water breaks, and provide a more positive attitude toward shows. I also think that the addition of Gino in 2000 helped to change more of the attitude and the approach. We still worked hard, but Gino had a more laid-back approach to rehearsing, and it worked for us. BD's style is much different apparently and I don't knock them for it. They were just not the corps that I liked and that's ok.

Different strokes for different folks. I marched Cadets because that was the corps I felt was more of my style, not to mention I loved their shows a hell of a lot more than I loved any other corps' shows.

[kdaddy]

2 hours ago, 2000Cadet said:

 

I can't speak on what has been going on in recent Cadets times, but I can say that my first season marching there, although it was very tough for me, I feel that we still ate relatively well. Sleep however, was a different story. And I think they made a lot of changes to that in the 2000 season. We got more floor time, and although we rehearsed quite a bit, the staff did much better in 2000 than in 1999 with allowing us to rest more, take more water breaks, and provide a more positive attitude toward shows. I also think that the addition of Gino in 2000 helped to change more of the attitude and the approach. We still worked hard, but Gino had a more laid-back approach to rehearsing, and it worked for us. BD's style is much different apparently and I don't knock them for it. They were just not the corps that I liked and that's ok.

Different strokes for different folks. I marched Cadets because that was the corps I felt was more of my style, not to mention I loved their shows a hell of a lot more than I loved any other corps' shows.

Who was the brass caption head prior to Gino?

 

[2000Cadet]

1 hour ago, kdaddy said:

Who was the brass caption head prior to Gino?

 

Matt Harloff (Or his brother...I can never remember which is which).

Edited April 27, 2018 by 2000Cadet

[BRASSO]

12 minutes ago, 2000Cadet said:

Matt Harloff (Or his brother...I can never remember which is which).

 Ben Harloff in 2000 with Cadets.

[Terri Schehr]

6 hours ago, Liahona said:

The lack of food rumors with the Cadets (at least the last 10 years) sounds to me like a bunch of propaganda from disgruntled folks with agendas...

Most of us who actually marched KNOW that to participate in this activity..especially in the modern era...members burn a tremendous amount of calories on the field over the course of a summer...even if the members are well fed...they are probably still going to lose weight...just look at all the selfie before/after photos DCI promotes every year...

There are a lot more serious issues here than food deprivation...

The worst food story I ever heard was not back when I marched but in the mid 2000’s .  My son had a friend in Cap Regiment who told him they were fed nothing but cake for a few days in Kansas in 100 degree heat.  He was giving her food from his corps.  I refer to them as the “let them eat cake” corps. 

[BRASSO]

23 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:

The worst food story I ever heard was not back when I marched but in the mid 2000’s .  My son had a friend in Cap Regiment who told him they were fed nothing but cake for a few days in Kansas in 100 degree heat.  He was giving her food from his corps.  I refer to them as the “let them eat cake” corps. 

 Why am I not surprised when we hear these things to learn that Cap. Regiment is no longer with us.  Cap Regiment had far worse than just bad food choices going on with staff/ mgt there too.. Terri knows what I'm talkin' about with this too.

Edited April 27, 2018 by BRASSO

[BigW]

35 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:

fed nothing but cake

Must be who the Drunk Corps International guys were referencing in a recent episode.

[HornTeacher]

If any of us is willing to reach back into our memories, and recall incidences under which we suffered while active in most any activity, we would be able to fill an entire thread with those alone (a fact of which I am far from advocating).  As for myself in my "lucid" days of the 1970's...

If you got your "bell rung" in the middle of football practice, you were simply expected to suck it up, stagger back to the huddle, and "be a man."  The same applied to virtually any injury suffered.  If you were able to walk and breath (and it was not always guaranteed that such had to take place concurrently), you weren't hurt.  Case closed.  Water breaks (such that when they even happened in the first place) were determined not through either science or need, but either at the pure discretion of the coach, or how much "hustle" we (in his eyes and opinion) we displayed.  And in most cases, it was more a matter of the latter than the former (which precluded him from any possible responsibility).  And as for water breaks during any segment of any marching band activity?  What water breaks....????????

Thank God that these practices have, by and large, been rectified through science.  Not to mention civilized thought.

Edited April 28, 2018 by HornTeacher

[Terri Schehr]

54 minutes ago, HornTeacher said:

If any of us is willing to reach back into our memories, and recall incidences under which we suffered while active in most any activity, we would be able to fill an entire thread with those alone.  As for myself in my "lucid" days of the 1970's...

If you got your "bell wrung" in the middle of football practice, you were simply expected to suck it up, stagger back to the huddle, and "be a man."  The same applied to virtually any injury suffered.  If you were able to walk and breath (and it was not always guaranteed that such had to take place concurrently), you weren't hurt.  Case closed.  Water breaks (such that when they even happened in the first place) were determined not through science, but either at the pure discretion of the coach, or how much "hustle" we (in his eyes and opinion") we displayed.  And in most cases, it was more a matter of the latter than the former (which precluded him from any possible responsibility).

Thank God that these practices have, by and large, been rectified through science.  Not to mention civilized thought.

I would NOT have allowed my child to march in my era of drum corps.  We have grown in many ways.  Awareness, education, and compassion especially.