Prsmpower4

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58 minutes ago, Prsmpower4 said:

Yes!  I’ve mentioned this fact on the Scouts’ Twitter page.  All still photos.  No lot videos, horn warmup....zippo.   Surprised that folks attending shows aren’t putting up any audio/visual.   So much for marketing and promotion!

The website says they have hired the marketing intern and a media specialist that they were looking for, so you would think they have the staff for that that they wanted.

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7 hours ago, gak27 said:

I find it interesting that Madison's show is the only one that DOESN'T seem to have ANY video presence on the interwebs this year...

Yea, I dont understand this. You Tube is FREE promotion and advertising. I will never understand corps who are over protective of their content. This activity needs all the exposure it can get.

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1 hour ago, ndkbass said:

The website says they have hired the marketing intern and a media specialist that they were looking for, so you would think they have the staff for that that they wanted.

That would mean CK would allow things to happen in this area, but he’s overly concerned with leadership camps and bankrupting the corps so he probably doesn’t have time to promote the corps or allow others to do so.

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Funny. Show was just posted. And who says no one reads DCP? Lol.

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4 minutes ago, GREENBLUE said:

Funny. Show was just posted. And who says no one reads DCP? Lol.

Do you honestly think comments on DCP caused this?

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7 minutes ago, tesmusic said:

Do you honestly think comments on DCP caused this?

Seriously? And I did put an “lol”at the end. It is kind of ironic though that almost a month into the season and no videos have been leaked and within a few hours of us mentioning there’s one posted. Just kind of funny.

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1 hour ago, FlamMan said:

Yea, I dont understand this. You Tube is FREE promotion and advertising. I will never understand corps who are over protective of their content. This activity needs all the exposure it can get.

Then you don't understand copyright law. 

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Watched the run.

A couple of thoughts on show concept and the way forward.

One does think that a theme like the famous Majestic movie theater in Madison would have greatly benefited from props, a storyline, some characterizations and acting, anything imaginative to engage a contemporary drum corps audience, not to mention the performers of today. 

To be fair, greater minds than the current Scouts creative team have tried a throwback show and it hasn't worked out. I'm thinking Santa Clara 1992, 'Fiddler on the Roof.' But regressing creatively didn't work competitively. Sentimentality trumped innovation with predictable results, although the corps was so good it still placed seventh. One wouldn't have expected Gail Royer to fall into that trap, but he did, and so it's not unthinkable that others would too.

This leads me to my last point, which is that perhaps the inclusion of women in the corps will help competitively not simply by increasing the pool of talent, but in allowing the Scouts to begin to explore and innovate in the contemporary drum corps universe, in which storytelling plays such a role, in an easier way than before. I think of the woman cutouts in 2015. 78th and Madison was a good show, but those were cheesy - you needed real women, not just dolls to be manipulated, if you will.

Even though Cavaliers are currently at higher design and performance standards than Madison, they are running into the same problems thematically - only so many shows these days you can do with just guys. It may even be that their ability to play, march and spin at a high level is masking the issue. It was a lot easier when you could just march and play, but that's not where the activity is anymore.

Best wishes to the Madison Scouts performers, staff and administration, alumni and fans.

 

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17 minutes ago, mfrontz said:

Watched the run.

A couple of thoughts on show concept and the way forward.

One does think that a theme like the famous Majestic movie theater in Madison would have greatly benefited from props, a storyline, some characterizations and method acting, anything imaginative to engage a contemporary drum corps audience, not to mention the performers of today. 

To be fair, greater minds than the current Scouts creative team have tried a throwback show and it hasn't worked out. I'm thinking Santa Clara 1992, 'Fiddler on the Roof.' But regressing creatively didn't work competitively. Sentimentality trumped innovation with predictable results, although the corps was so good it still placed seventh. One wouldn't have expected Gail Royer to fall into that trap, but he did, and so it's not unthinkable that others would too.

This leads me to my last point, which is that perhaps the inclusion of women in the corps will help competitively not simply by increasing the pool of talent, but in allowing the Scouts to begin to explore and innovate in the contemporary drum corps universe, in which storytelling plays such a role, in an easier way than before. I think of the woman cutouts in 2015. 78th and Madison was a good show, but those were cheesy - you needed real women, not just dolls to be manipulated, if you will.

Even though Cavaliers are currently at higher design and performance standards than Madison, they are running into the same problems thematically - only so many shows these days you can do with just guys. It may even be that their ability to play, march and spin at a high level is masking the issue. It was a lot easier when you could just march and play, but that's not where the activity is anymore.

Best wishes to the Madison Scouts performers, staff and administration, alumni and fans.

 

You do realize that the last three years SCV has marched show designs that we’re gender neutral? They’ve had their most continual success in decades.All males or all females could have marched these shows and had been title contenders.

 I’m not sure an all male corps has been Madisons issue the last 20 years. And I’m not Not seeing the thematically tie in with the Cavaliers.

Samurai /007/Machine/Immortal/Mad World/Propaganda/Men Are from Mars/Wrong Side of The Tracks  (and more) had amazing design success using all males.

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4 minutes ago, GREENBLUE said:

You do realize that the last three years SCV has marched show designs that we’re gender neutral? They’ve had their most continual success in decades.All males or all females could have marched these shows and had been title contenders.

 I’m not sure an all male corps has been Madisons issue the last 20 years. And I’m not Not seeing the thematically tie in with the Cavaliers.

Samurai /007/Machine/Immortal/Mad World/Propaganda/Men Are from Mars/Wrong Side of The Tracks  (and more) had amazing design success using all males.

Not to mention that corps who has done shows about women with men in their ranks.

Show themed don't have to have gender issues in them what so ever....

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