kkrepps Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, N.E. Brigand said: When did "these days" start? Right after "those days". 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skevinp Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Fran Haring said: https://instantrimshot.com/ noice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skevinp Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 hours ago, kkrepps said: Right after "those days". But still before "one of these days" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpendell Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) On 7/1/2019 at 12:33 AM, adman said: It didn't look like Allen Kristensen. Guess I will have to look at the judges list. Nora Jones was definitely there. NoraH Jones "Don't know why I didn't come two yards further in." 😞 Edited July 2, 2019 by johnpendell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said: Well, you're describing a choice here, but you're pretending it's not a choice. DCI could have decided that (1) differentiating very fine details between battery performance was more important than (2) designers having the ability to integrate percussion more tightly in their visuals without judges getting in the way. DCI decided to sacrifice the fine details. Maybe the right choice. Maybe not. But still a choice. False choice. Corps are responsible now to stage their work to have it seen by the judges. Nobody can argue that they deserve credit for what a judge can't see and a judge won't withhold credit on the assumption of the unseen... they reward what they do see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adman Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, johnpendell said: NoraH Jones "Don't know why I didn't come two yards further in." 😞 Obviously I meant Nola Jones. At times typos do occur - even without snark... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbobcat Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 A couple of questions: 1. What is the "working relationship" between DCI and their Judges ? Are they "paid consultants" ,"seasonal employees" or something else. 2.if DCI determines that a Judge is not following this rule,what are the mechanisms to address the situation ? I would hope it would be similar to a lot businesses,namely: A.Warning B.Suspension C.Termination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said: When did "these days" start? Recently, the school district that I live in had a traffic officer file a complaint with the district and the police department that a particular community event that they had been holding was unsafe due to inevitable traffic patterns. He cited several 'close calls' with pedestrians and vehicle on vehicle. This was just now reported, in spite of the fact that the event is 10 years old. The timing of the event, the parking scenario and the traffic pattern was studied and it was determined that they were running a high risk of injury/death by hold this event at the time that it was being held. The event (and all others like it) was cancelled until further notice. The risk was sufficient and they didn't wait until an accident happened to act. So the question is 'when did it get like this?'... and the answer is ' who cares?'. The fact is that it IS unsafe. In the drumcorps scene, you can't put a date on when design got universally complicated... and you don't need to. However, you can justify that once a single corps exercised the design freedom to be unpredictable with increasing sets and subsets, meshing drill, and collapsing forms, then the cat was out of the bag. I would say this happened in the mid 80s, became regular among competitive groups through the 90s and now even the nonfinalist corps are presenting such nonlinear, unpredictable design. It has always been dangerous to be standing in forms with people moving and guard work outside of the feild of view. But with the integration and unpredictability that design has at this moment in time (regardless of where we were 'yesterday'), the probability of injury is pretty high with non performers wandering in the forms. If you sit in on rehearsals now you will see far less staff traffic (if any) inside the forms during ensemble rehearsals. And these are the folks that know how the show works. That's saying something. Edited July 2, 2019 by cfirwin3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 12 hours ago, EricS said: And you obviously don't approve of the new rule. Say what you may, but either abide ny the rules or be gone! if i were judging i'd abide by it, but i'd communicate to my caption head too, and I am sure feedback is being gathered from both corps and judges. It's not popular at all, and safety is a smokescreen. If they were truly concerned about safety, the stuff being wheeled out as props would be vastly different. Please, argue that, I can't wait. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 12 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said: Well, you're describing a choice here, but you're pretending it's not a choice. DCI could have decided that (1) differentiating very fine details between battery performance was more important than (2) designers having the ability to integrate percussion more tightly in their visuals without judges getting in the way. DCI decided to sacrifice the fine details. Maybe the right choice. Maybe not. But still a choice. what happens if a prop falls over with performers on it? Do they then ban props? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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