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I've often wondered how many of these many many many part time instructors brought on and even designers are "charity hires" of a sort for talented age outs who want to 'break into the biz' and/or 'don't want to let go yet.'  

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24 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:

I've often wondered how many of these many many many part time instructors brought on and even designers are "charity hires" of a sort for talented age outs who want to 'break into the biz' and/or 'don't want to let go yet.'  

If they're unpaid/low-paid interns trying to break into their trade then that's a good thing.  Otherwise, it's "pageantry-leachy"

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1 hour ago, greg_orangecounty said:

If they're unpaid/low-paid interns trying to break into their trade then that's a good thing.  Otherwise, it's "pageantry-leachy"

To be fair - the vast majority of pageantry leeches are not child molesters / sex offenders.  

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Right. I'm just saying there's a limited number of actual needed staff/designers before corps might start simply creating positions because they want that person involved or someone with the ability to make it happen wants to do a favor for that someone.  It's entirely separate from the whole sex offender thing for the most part, just an observation of a degree of 'staff bloat' that seems to happen.  

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6 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:

Right. I'm just saying there's a limited number of actual needed staff/designers before corps might start simply creating positions because they want that person involved or someone with the ability to make it happen wants to do a favor for that someone.  It's entirely separate from the whole sex offender thing for the most part, just an observation of a degree of 'staff bloat' that seems to happen.  

Yes, that makes sense and thank you for the reply.  (Also concur the issue has nothing to do with sexual offenders).

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5 hours ago, rjohn76 said:

I caught wind of a story this weekend that may pertain to Pioneer, but also other DCI/marching organizations that have employed this person in recent years.

https://wsbt.com/news/local/former-laporte-coach-charged-with-child-seduction

https://6park.news/indiana/arrested-coach-faced-complaints-but-was-resolved-of-wrongdoing-at-eths.html

https://www.evanstonian.net/news/2021/11/19/color-guard-captains-recount-culture-of-abuse-intensity-under-head-coach/

This person was most recently on the design team with Madison Scouts in 2019.  Not sure if they were active in 2020 or 2021, but previously had spent time with Dutchboy, Bluecoats, Mandarins, and the Santa Clara Vanguard per their own bio.

https://www.forwardperformingarts.org/news/madison-scouts-announce-2019-design-team

With respect to how this pertains to Pioneer... heard that this person may have been present at the planning meetings a few weeks ago and have some involvement in their WGI efforts moving forward.  If that's the case, it would be pretty "on brand" for Pioneer based on what we've seen in the past.

those who refuse to learn from the past will be doomed to making the same mistakes in the future

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6 hours ago, rjohn76 said:

I caught wind of a story this weekend that may pertain to Pioneer, but also other DCI/marching organizations that have employed this person in recent years.

https://wsbt.com/news/local/former-laporte-coach-charged-with-child-seduction

https://6park.news/indiana/arrested-coach-faced-complaints-but-was-resolved-of-wrongdoing-at-eths.html

https://www.evanstonian.net/news/2021/11/19/color-guard-captains-recount-culture-of-abuse-intensity-under-head-coach/

This person was most recently on the design team with Madison Scouts in 2019.  Not sure if they were active in 2020 or 2021, but previously had spent time with Dutchboy, Bluecoats, Mandarins, and the Santa Clara Vanguard per their own bio.

https://www.forwardperformingarts.org/news/madison-scouts-announce-2019-design-team

With respect to how this pertains to Pioneer... heard that this person may have been present at the planning meetings a few weeks ago and have some involvement in their WGI efforts moving forward.  If that's the case, it would be pretty "on brand" for Pioneer based on what we've seen in the past.

Well, he did post $750 bond. What the #### is wrong with this God forsaken world? $750? Are you ####### ####### me? If I were the judge, he would be posting a pair of balls. I guess that’s why I’m not a judge. (Mods: I meant soft balls … don’t look at m like that.)

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22 hours ago, rjohn76 said:

I caught wind of a story this weekend that may pertain to Pioneer, but also other DCI/marching organizations that have employed this person in recent years.

https://wsbt.com/news/local/former-laporte-coach-charged-with-child-seduction

https://6park.news/indiana/arrested-coach-faced-complaints-but-was-resolved-of-wrongdoing-at-eths.html

https://www.evanstonian.net/news/2021/11/19/color-guard-captains-recount-culture-of-abuse-intensity-under-head-coach/

This person was most recently on the design team with Madison Scouts in 2019.  Not sure if they were active in 2020 or 2021, but previously had spent time with Dutchboy, Bluecoats, Mandarins, and the Santa Clara Vanguard per their own bio.

https://www.forwardperformingarts.org/news/madison-scouts-announce-2019-design-team

With respect to how this pertains to Pioneer... heard that this person may have been present at the planning meetings a few weeks ago and have some involvement in their WGI efforts moving forward.  If that's the case, it would be pretty "on brand" for Pioneer based on what we've seen in the past.

What the holy hell?  🤦‍♀️

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