IllianaLancerContra Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, Drum Dude TS said: Interesting though, with the Troopers rate of improvement at .95 pts per day….if they keep that rate for much longer they will be that contender for 12th. They definitely have the show to do it! I agree. When I heard they were using a cello I was skeptical. But, it really works. This may be my favorite show of 2022. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppycock Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 BK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolCorps Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, BlueStainGlass said: In a totally nonbiased response right? 😂 TOTALLY non biased! 😉😉😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAtenhut Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I think 11-14 can be a dog fight by Indy... Crossmen, BK, Colts and Troopers. I'm going to predict Xmen and BK perform Saturday. Crossmen - I'm not sure if they will continue to change the order of their movements every show, but if they do, that can hurt them in the long run. But I think of the 4, they might be the strongest. Blue Knights - This is just not the same BK we are all used to seeing. But BK always finds a way to finish strong, so I wouldn't be surprised if they secure 11th by Indy. Colts - They're small but fierce. I said from the first time I saw them on Flo that they have a fun show and a nice balanced sound, and I'd love to see them make finals this year. I think they are extra hungry knowing Finals is in sight. Troopers - Late start to their season but improving quickly. They have a fun, dark show, likely influenced by former Mandarins Brass head Tim Snyder leading them. If they can clean up, they have a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple Forte Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 7 hours ago, mcjordansc said: I hope there is some 12th place suspense this year and would love to see 3-4 corps in the mix. The last time there was a true battle for 12th was in 2016 when BAC was 13th in QF and passed Madison for 12th in SF. I too would love to see some changes not only in 12 but all up and down the top 12. my favorite scenario was in 2003 Glassmen and blue Knights were 12 and 13 Spirit was in 14th place going into Friday night. Spirit jumped Glassmen and blue knights and got them self the 12th Place spot for Saturday night and the crowd was thrilled because it was a great show and far more enjoyable than the Glassman blue knights that year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPRfan Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: I agree. When I heard they were using a cello I was skeptical. But, it really works. This may be my favorite show of 2022. Wholeheartedly agree that Troopers are fantastic. One of my favorite shows too. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but after seeing the Ogden & DATR shows live, Troopers to me had the most entertaining, dark, powerful, goose-bump inducing show there, with Mandarins just behind for me (Based on entertainment - not difficulty or technical achievement. Troopers have a ton to clean, and some things to tweak in the show to make it even better. It's definitely their best show since Wild Horses. As to the last two spots, hard to say without seeing the others live yet (solved this week in Texas). First, why are people assuming Crossmen are in or locked even at 11th? There scores don't support that (the scores matter little until everyone is lined up) Here's my current guess(which I will revise after seeing the Texas shows): 11. Blue Knights. I just can't process them finishing lower. Still good drill, and talent. Not sure why percussion is suddenly such a weakness. Not a big fan of the guard. BK has too much experience and talent to miss top 12, me thinks. Easily their worst design in at least a decade though... 12. Colts. This is such a crap shoot. The do have multiple captions where achievement is already outpacing content - not a great sign. Would be a great achievement though. 13. Troopers. Live, this show is freakin electric. Actually love the cello, to my shock. Fresh, modern, yet vintage Troopers. Great concept. Still a TON of upside from cleaning, and polish. They got a late start. Scores are improving rapidly. Is it enough, I'm not sure. But a real dark horse and they will be a BIG crowd favorite. I did notice this sitting lower in Ogden and higher at DATR - For now, the energy and electricity that is so palpable lower isn't fully reaching (though it's still great) the higher stands. That will get better me thinks. I can see troop as high as 12th or as low as 14th. At the same time, I wouldn't be stunned if they caught BK. Far more upside from cleaning and polish to the show, and they are already close in GE. I don't understand why they are so far behind in Brass & Music Analysis (Brass guy here). I remember how momentum that built behind Academy with Drum Corpse Bride. This show has the potential to have the crowd behind them in the same way and enthusiasm breeds confidence. When's the last time Troopers got noticeably more crowd response than BK? It's been a long time. And a Troopers showing at Finals in DCI's 50th anniversary. Momentum, Crowd adoration, and some sentimentality? I wouldn't rule out Troopers, folks. And one of the few shows where a key prop FITS and ADDS to the story vs checking the current judging criteria "box" while adding little to nothing to the show. (I'm looking at you, BD, SCV, Phantom & others...) 14. Crossmen. I'll get a better read on this after seeing them live, of course. For now, what I'm reading, and seeing in scores makes them seem incredibly vulnerable - and there's been no same show evaluation with BK & Troopers yet. In some, I think it's a four horse race for 2 spots. It's hard to see BK falling out, but it's possible. Assuming they are in, what fun & suspense will be in the air as the other 3 battle it out for the next few weeks! Harvey Edited July 19, 2022 by TexasPRfan last thoughts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Troopers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameseuph Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I see Troopers climbing into the 12th spot. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFAN Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Crossmen will not fall to 14TH! I see them in either 11th or 12th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, DCFAN said: Crossmen will not fall to 14TH! I see them in either 11th or 12th. 1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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