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  1. It’s easy enough to judge if players are marching around with mics attaches to their bells. It’s also easy enough to ban certain types of field level mics that are designed to pickup sound from sources further away.
  2. Then increase the numbers! Hey, I'm down with unlimited numbers! But then everyone will cry about how expensive it is! It's an exclusive activity, and always will be. How come some qualified members would rather NOT MARCH, if not their fav corps? I dunno, a million reasons? I don't care about those, cuz they're all personal. My point is: The exclusivity is a TWO WAY street, and we can't solve it one way.
  3. First of all, your last sentence is full of idealist, pie-in-the-sky stuff. For even without woodwinds, that would be true: I mean, why cut anyone? Just take every single person who auditions, since we're trying to be so magnanimous! Also, every woodwind player is welcome to learn brass, and try out for drum corps. I'm sure we all know dozens that have! Don't get me wrong: I;m an advocate for woodwinds, but I just want the color. I would never to pretend to be some hippie, feel-good, make-love-not-war person saying "can't we all just be involved?" NO, we can't. We have membership limits, regardless of instrumentation. Some very qualified people will be sent home, period.
  4. No. If you increase the numbers, you can march 12 Alto Saxes that would be heard. You probably need 16-18 Clarinets, but you get the idea.
  5. For woodwinds, I'm an advocate, so it is what it is. For those exclaiming "if the numbers don't change, it's a moot point," I say maybe only for corps who already max out that number. For corps that have difficulty getting members, it WILL increase their ranks. Maybe Encorps can get to 55 if they allow woodwinds. It will certainly challenge any of their creators who are traditional drum corps types! And I'm 100% behind Michael Martin's proposal to limit micing of the field brass. In fact, I'd take "Anything goes instrumentation, numbers, electronics, and pit amplification" if micing of field brass was outlawed! No shotgun mics either. I basically quit over this issue, so if Michael Martin can get it resolved, maybe I'll go back to teaching. Hey, if that's their plan, and Cavies still marching 16 tubas, maybe I should send them my Contra Tech Resume, lol.
  6. Why can’t these corps with small numbers just go max out the SoundSport program? Honestly, I’m not a fan of 37-member outdoor marching units in huge stadiums. “We’re here! Let us in!” doesn't really cut it for me. DCI is set up in such a way that there really aren’t any avenues for recourse when an organization doesn’t get its way. Encorps needs to spend more time figuring out why they can’t find 55 members, instead of crying about DCI operations.
  7. Don’t ya know? The point these days is to SEEK to be triggered. THEN report it is a travesty.
  8. Only if one or both of the Caption Managers below are gone too, since they do most of the work.
  9. Important note for purveyors of this thread: Chip was not Caption Head at SCV. He was Caption SUPERVISOR. This is public knowledge for anyone who wishes to check out scvanguard,org.
  10. Safe for another year! No new champion, so there's nothing really to discuss. BD won. Business as usual, even though a suitable competitor was right there. Tough spot for a judge. Competitive Inertia simplifies things, as I stated in the original post, 12 years ago. All good.
  11. I don’t care. If those people are honest, they’d set their “judging profile” to “Corps Homer,” and that’s fine. By placing their fav corps first, say Jersey Surf, at least that has a chance to knock a perennial out of first (with tie breaking rules, etc) I’d have no problem with Surf winning their home show, even if all previous top 12 corps were competing there. Of course bias will factor in, just like it does now. I can totally see myself putting SCV or Bloo (homer factors for both) above other corps IN THE SAME BALLPARK, just cuz I can. Again, that’s no different than it works now.
  12. Here's how it would work: 1) Download the app to your smart phone or tablet 2) Location services must be enabled 3) Create an account at App Host Anyone with a device running the app within X miles of the venue can login (Location services would automatically check to see what show you're at), and rank the corps as they see fit. "X" is the minimum accuracy of location services. I would not let anyone vote unless they are at the show. Streaming is not good enough, sorry. If people care enough to sit outside the venue and vote (cuz they're within X miles), more power to them. Maybe DCI will create a block party option, with screens setup outside for just such an experience. The App would allow you to rank every corps at a show, in [whatever] captions, and overall placement. It should also allow people to opt out ("I'm not qualified," or "I never pay attention to [caption]") so those can be ignored in the final tally. There would be a cutoff time for submission (say, 5 minutes after last show), but everyone would have to officially submit. Note that you could start ranking as soon as the show starts, even before all of the corps perform (ha, judges do it this way, too! I keed I keed!). And then you might move things around as the show progresses. No scores. Just ranking. I imagine the app being nothing more than point-hold-drag on a list of show corps names, as you move the teams around, placing them in the rank order you prefer. Quick drop-down menu to switch captions/attributes for ranking. When show is over, hit submit, and within 5 minutes of the cutoff time, the entire results should be known. Other thoughts: --The results could be tallied and displayed in real time during the show. It would be interesting to see how that information might affect how people vote. You'd hear comments like: "Bluecoats are still in first, but they haven't even performed yet!"and "Oh wow! SCV jumped over BD after that!" The excitement would be palpable. --AD-driven app (somehow, the technology has to get paid for). Corps at the show could pay a few bucks to get their corps ads into the app, with links to their merch sites. The corps could even generate show-oriented merch with this kind of app/demand. The possibilities are endless. --Hopefully, after a few years, DCI would get rid of the judges entirely, and just go with the App. --I don't care about the "unscientific" nature of this. It can't be any worse than the garbage logic the judges are using (See Competitive Inertia). If someone wants to take it further, one could put a barcode on the tickets, and only let users who scan the barcode vote. But seriously, if some fans are so thoroughly invested in the outcome, that they want to show up to the venue area (within X miles), and vote without seeing the show, that's fine. I actually trust those hard-core fans more than I trust the judges, lol. Then again, I really don't want people from all over the world voting...that is rife with statistical and technical pitfalls. The goal is to reward the show goer with a fun opportunity to make their feelings known. --The App could let people choose a "judging profile," where they'd specify their experience or confidence in judging, lol. I'd love to see how many people think they actually know what they're doing, and then compare the "I'm immensely qualified to be a DCI judge" profiles against the real judging outcomes. --I know I dog on the judging a lot, but I think the Fan Ranking App outcome would be very close to the judging outcome, most of the time. Note that I'm choosing my words carefully, with most, like 50.1% lol. I really don't care what these paid judges think. I'm more interested in what the audience thinks.
  13. I suppose it would look a lot like places 9 through 20 on any given year. Boston has added some staff talent from previous G7, and they’ve certainly drawn favor recently, so they’d become the Class B Blue Devils over time. I wonder how many audience members would even notice the clear drop in Excellence, when all the top tier is missing. Imagine those 8 champs disappearing, including all the staff and membership talent. If all you had—and all you knew—was open class type Quality, I suppose most wouldn’t notice. Another question: what will it take to get Madison, Phantom, and Cadets back into contention? (One answer: an off year by current darlings). Boston and Cavies are probably closer...