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You CAN do Johan de Meij........you will just be charged an arm and a leg to do it. Jay Bocook has an arrangement of his Lord of the Rings Symphony you can find on JW Pepper.

Concert setting arrangements, maybe, but marching arrangements is forbidden.

I first heard this from a university professor in a marching techniques class. Said he was judging a band that played the Lord of the Rings Suite back in 05 and found out the had a lawsuit waiting for them at the exit ramp.

I've also spoken with the man in person and asked him why. His answer was very stern, but polite. All and all he's a very nice guy.

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Getting permission from composers is a VERY recent thing. Some still don't do it.

BOA has great resources on their site. Here is something I lifted...

Some composers or publishers do not allow band arrangements of the material they own. This is sometimes due to contractual agreements or the prerogative of the composer. The list below is an accumulative list of material to date that has been denied in the past or that the publisher has indicated will be denied in the future. Always check with publishers before selecting your program.

1. "The Easter Symphony - Mvt. 2 (Death Tree)" by David Holsinger

(publisher instructed to deny requests to arrange 2nd Movement only)

2. Music and film scores by John Williams

3. Music by Joaquin Rodrigo ("Concierto de Aranjuez")

4. Music by Charles Ives

5. "God Bless America"

6. "Riverdance"

7. Music by Vincent Persichetti

8. The use of Literary Characters (i.e. from "Where the Wild Things Are")

9. Music and stories of Dr. Seuss

10. "Symphony #3" by James Barnes

11. Works by David Maslanka (Mr. Maslanka will consider personally creating a new commissioned work or arrangements for your band.)

12. "Ritual Fire Dance" by Manuel de Falla

13. Music from any Disney Film less than six (6) months after the film's release.

14. "Carmina Burana" by Carl Orff

15. Music composed or performed by the rock group Van Halen.

16. "Barbarian Horde" from the Motion Picture "Gladiator"

17. "The Battle" from the Motion Picture "Gladiator"

18. "Progeny" from the Motion Picture "Gladiator"

19. Music composed or performed by the rock group U2.

20. "She Loves You" by John Lennon and Paul McCartney

21. "Space Oddity" by David Bowie

22. "Welcome to the Black Parade" performed by My Chemical Romance

23. Music and Film scores by Thomas Newman

24. All works by Bruce Springsteen

The following will not necessarily be denied. However, our experience has been that permission may take longer than average to be granted. You should allow a minimum of 6-8 weeks or longer to license these works.

1. Hal Leonard requires that all requests be submitted via their website. You should allow approximately 6 weeks to complete the licensing process. However, the following exceptions should be noted:

* Walt Disney Music: Music from movies released within the past 6 months may not be approved.

* Any music controlled by PolyGram UK (primarily music by Björk)

* Music by Andrew Lloyd Webber requires the approval of his UK office. You will be required to submit your score for approval. Allow a MINIMUM of 3 months from the time to submit your score.

* Music composed/performed by Queen. Hal Leonard is required to obtain permission from the copyright owner in the UK. Please allow a MINIMUM of 3 months from the time you submit your request.

* Music composed/performed by Sting and/or The Police

2. Operas intended for a complete show (mos. to approve)

3. "Boléro" by Maurice Ravel

4. "Turandot" by Giacomo Puccini

SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIFIC WORKS

Because Bands of America intends to continue its practice of recording and distributing video products of performances by participating bands at BOA fall events, bands that choose to perform the following works, or works by the following composers, or administered by the following publishers must take additional steps, pay additional fees and/or provide additional permissions in favor of Bands of America and its designees regarding recording, reproduction and distribution of the performance. To find more detailed information and further requirements read Bands of America's Fall Participant Copyright Documentation

Composers (all works):

* Robert Lamm

* James Pankow

* Prince

* John Lennon

* Led Zeppelin

Composers (specific works):

* Björk ("Joga" and "The Anchor Song")

* Paul McCartney (songs performed by The Beatles)

* Bruce Springsteen ("Born In The USA")

Publishers (collections in their entirety):

* Arc Music Group, including Goodman Music, Conrad Music, Sunflower Music, Jewel Music, Regent Music

Publishers (specific works):

* Paramount Pictures (specifically music including the "Mission: Impossible Theme", and music from "Forrest Gump" and "The Godfather" - music from all movies). If you choose to perform songs from other Paramount Pictures movies, please contact BOA as soon as possible so that we may confirm that licensing is available and appropriate for BOA.

* Walt Disney (specifically music from the motion picture "National Treasure"

Other Restricted Compositions:

* Music from any James Bond movie, regardless of publisher

* Music from any Paramount Pictures movie as stated above, regardless of publisher

* Any Beatles song written by John Lennon or Paul McCartney (see above)

* The song "Hotel California" (by the Eagles)

* The song "Break on Through" (and other songs by Jim Morrison)

* The song "Fly Like An Eagle" by Steve Miller

* Music from the Disney "Pirates of the Caribbean" movies

* "Brazil (Main Title)" by Michael Kamen

* "Barbarian Horde," "The Battle," and "Progeny" from the Motion Picture "Gladiator"

* "Sweet Home Chicago" by Woody Payne

Scott Stewart says that the Kilties have secured the rights to play Carmina Burana by Carl Orff and Andrew Lloyd Webber's Pie Jesu.

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I hear Wilson Phillips is a big no-no.

I believe it's "Phillip Wilson and Yoko Ono."

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We played Williams in 88, 89, 90 and 91. Sky Ryders did Carmina Burana

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Sam Hazo Came to see the colts, and worked with the hornline for a couple of days in 2006. He was very wery about us playing Ride and you could see it on his face. Sam was told to go to the front of the arch where he was met with Greg, chris and Jason. After we were done playing the song, he was shocked. His exact words were I have heard many ensembles play that song, but I have never heard anyone play it like that, Thank you. He thanked Chirs Tomsa. The greatest part is that he started to change parts for us. I got the impression that he had asked chris if he could change the parts, chris kind of looked at him and said it was his song go for it. Sam was so blown away that He flew out to San Antonio a few weeks later to see how we were doing. He had even met the judges with the staff. Even more so he had offered to release a song that he was composing to the Colts, that no one had heard before.

Sam Hazo is a brillant man, There are pictures of him on the colts cooktruck site of him rehearsing with the corps. it was an honor to beable to play for him.

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Four my students performed in an Honor Band a week ago under Sam Hazo. They all came away very impressed with him. I think his music is brilliant.

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I think I remember hearing this as well, that he was at finals in 99. Can any 99 Cadets confirm this?

Alfred Reed came to a Regiment rehearsal in 84 when they were performing "Armenian Dances". After peeling his face off in the horn arc, they took him up to the box and marched it for him, too. My lovely bride, who marched that summer in the Regiment guard, says he was thrilled and shook hands with every single corps member.

Garry in Vegas

That's because Alfred Reed is one of the best band composers to ever live... I would put him somewhere after Holst and Grainger.

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What about Philip Sparke and Sunrise at Angels Gate?

I loooved that piece... challenging but beautiful chords

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Eh, Sam Hazo... He did the Allstate Senior Band in SC a year or two back, and I while I would have rather been with him than the guy I didn't know doing the Clinic level, I still think his music is a little... repetitive. Granted, it's good repetitive music, but still, if you've heard it once...

I'm pretty okay with a lot of composers not allowing corps to play their music, mostly because sometimes I get a little offended by corps that play big orchestral works... I know that sounds arrogant or pretentious or whatever, but it just irritates me when a corps butchers a work into a million pieces, or plays certain excerpts the wrong way (and yeah, it's not a matter of interpretation... if you've ever played in an orchestra or studied excerpts, you know there's a right and wrong.) There are just some things that never should be arranged. The corps that has pulled off the orchestral arrangement the best in my mind is PR 96... That arrangement was probably as true as a corps could possibly do. BK on the other hand... Awesome hornline, but really??? Did you guys have to mess with all of those awesome piano concertos???

PR's version of Nessun Dorma irritates me (mellophone does not equal tenor!!!), but their Fire of Eternal Glory is incredible...

Also, if a corps ever arranges Brahms 4 I will harm something innocent. That is a threat.

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