DO NOT PLAY LIST.

[randomnoise]

Looking at CorpsReps, I see Colts (91-93), Lone Star (98), Jubal (02), Mon Valley Express (04-05), and Grennies (06).....12 seperate compositions listed.

Getting permission from composers is a VERY recent thing. Some still don't do it.

BOA has great resources on their site. Here is something I lifted...

Some composers or publishers do not allow band arrangements of the material they own. This is sometimes due to contractual agreements or the prerogative of the composer. The list below is an accumulative list of material to date that has been denied in the past or that the publisher has indicated will be denied in the future. Always check with publishers before selecting your program.

1. "The Easter Symphony - Mvt. 2 (Death Tree)" by David Holsinger

(publisher instructed to deny requests to arrange 2nd Movement only)

2. Music and film scores by John Williams

3. Music by Joaquin Rodrigo ("Concierto de Aranjuez")

4. Music by Charles Ives

5. "God Bless America"

6. "Riverdance"

7. Music by Vincent Persichetti

8. The use of Literary Characters (i.e. from "Where the Wild Things Are")

9. Music and stories of Dr. Seuss

10. "Symphony #3" by James Barnes

11. Works by David Maslanka (Mr. Maslanka will consider personally creating a new commissioned work or arrangements for your band.)

12. "Ritual Fire Dance" by Manuel de Falla

13. Music from any Disney Film less than six (6) months after the film's release.

14. "Carmina Burana" by Carl Orff

15. Music composed or performed by the rock group Van Halen.

16. "Barbarian Horde" from the Motion Picture "Gladiator"

17. "The Battle" from the Motion Picture "Gladiator"

18. "Progeny" from the Motion Picture "Gladiator"

19. Music composed or performed by the rock group U2.

20. "She Loves You" by John Lennon and Paul McCartney

21. "Space Oddity" by David Bowie

22. "Welcome to the Black Parade" performed by My Chemical Romance

23. Music and Film scores by Thomas Newman

24. All works by Bruce Springsteen

The following will not necessarily be denied. However, our experience has been that permission may take longer than average to be granted. You should allow a minimum of 6-8 weeks or longer to license these works.

1. Hal Leonard requires that all requests be submitted via their website. You should allow approximately 6 weeks to complete the licensing process. However, the following exceptions should be noted:

* Walt Disney Music: Music from movies released within the past 6 months may not be approved.

* Any music controlled by PolyGram UK (primarily music by Björk)

* Music by Andrew Lloyd Webber requires the approval of his UK office. You will be required to submit your score for approval. Allow a MINIMUM of 3 months from the time to submit your score.

* Music composed/performed by Queen. Hal Leonard is required to obtain permission from the copyright owner in the UK. Please allow a MINIMUM of 3 months from the time you submit your request.

* Music composed/performed by Sting and/or The Police

2. Operas intended for a complete show (mos. to approve)

3. "Boléro" by Maurice Ravel

4. "Turandot" by Giacomo Puccini

SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIFIC WORKS

Because Bands of America intends to continue its practice of recording and distributing video products of performances by participating bands at BOA fall events, bands that choose to perform the following works, or works by the following composers, or administered by the following publishers must take additional steps, pay additional fees and/or provide additional permissions in favor of Bands of America and its designees regarding recording, reproduction and distribution of the performance. To find more detailed information and further requirements read Bands of America's Fall Participant Copyright Documentation

Composers (all works):

* Robert Lamm

* James Pankow

* Prince

* John Lennon

* Led Zeppelin

Composers (specific works):

* Björk ("Joga" and "The Anchor Song")

* Paul McCartney (songs performed by The Beatles)

* Bruce Springsteen ("Born In The USA")

Publishers (collections in their entirety):

* Arc Music Group, including Goodman Music, Conrad Music, Sunflower Music, Jewel Music, Regent Music

Publishers (specific works):

* Paramount Pictures (specifically music including the "Mission: Impossible Theme", and music from "Forrest Gump" and "The Godfather" - music from all movies). If you choose to perform songs from other Paramount Pictures movies, please contact BOA as soon as possible so that we may confirm that licensing is available and appropriate for BOA.

* Walt Disney (specifically music from the motion picture "National Treasure"

Other Restricted Compositions:

* Music from any James Bond movie, regardless of publisher

* Music from any Paramount Pictures movie as stated above, regardless of publisher

* Any Beatles song written by John Lennon or Paul McCartney (see above)

* The song "Hotel California" (by the Eagles)

* The song "Break on Through" (and other songs by Jim Morrison)

* The song "Fly Like An Eagle" by Steve Miller

* Music from the Disney "Pirates of the Caribbean" movies

* "Brazil (Main Title)" by Michael Kamen

* "Barbarian Horde," "The Battle," and "Progeny" from the Motion Picture "Gladiator"

* "Sweet Home Chicago" by Woody Payne

[Michael Boo]

1. "The Easter Symphony - Mvt. 2 (Death Tree)" by David Holsinger

(publisher instructed to deny requests to arrange 2nd Movement only)

10. "Symphony #3" by James Barnes

I understand those. I personally asked Mr. Holsinger (while I was working the TRN Music booth at a convention with him) about that, and he told me that particular movement was just too personal for him, written as it was about Christ's crucifixion.

If I remember correctly from the program notes, the Barnes symphony (subtitled "The Tragic") was written in memory of his deceased child.

[84BDsop]

Getting permission from composers is a VERY recent thing. Some still don't do it.

How recent? I remember being required to get permissions when Nightfire tried to come out in 94...

A shame about that list you posted....some good stuff there....fortunately, some of it has alreade been done and recorded!

[notelvis]

Arrogant composers who really don't care about anything else except how they want their music to be heard.

Ya know, given the cut and paste number that a number of corps have done with their source material, I'd think twice about turning something I might have written over to a corps. That's not a matter of arrogance, that's a matter of not having my name attached to something presented completely differently from what I intended.

Oh......and no.......I haven't composed anything since an arranging class my junior year in college. I won't admit which composers I ripped off but they are dead now.

[kickhaltsforlife]

Ya know, given the cut and paste number that a number of corps have done with their source material, I'd think twice about turning something I might have written over to a corps. That's not a matter of arrogance, that's a matter of not having my name attached to something presented completely differently from what I intended.

Oh......and no.......I haven't composed anything since an arranging class my junior year in college. I won't admit which composers I ripped off but they are dead now.

read one of my later posts.. i believe it explains more of my opinion... this post would be my "title" i just had some delayed thinking... lol

[whitedawn]

I'm almost positive I recall them stating that De Meij was in attendance in 99 on the broadcast.

yeah he was there. i met him. he seemed pretty cool, i guess. i think he watched two (?) rehearsals, and was definitely present for the finals show warm up.

i think the deal was (could be wrong here -- its been ten summers, and this is how i remember it) that he licensed the music for The Big Apple to a high school marching band in 1997 or 1998, and it turned out to be terrible in both arrangement and performance.

the cadets' arranger knew him and convinced him that he should let the corps do it because they would not butcher it or perform it badly. i think it turned out very well, but i can see why he would be so protective of his music. no composer wants to see their stuff performed poorly.

[LoveKathyG]

I hear Wilson Phillips is a big no-no.

[DMCK]

Arrogant composers who really don't care about anything else except how they want their music to be heard.

That's definitely part of it, but don't forget that while it's music and art to us, to them it's how they make their living.

[ostinato]

Not to throw total flamebait out here, but it's definitely interesting to see that the list of "do not use music", with the exception of a few overprotective estates, is mostly film, band, and pop composers, all of pretty uneven output.

Folks like Adams, Corigliano, Danielpour, Higdon, Rouse, and their ilk- the ones actually being commissioned by major orchestras- seem to be just fine with their music being used. I wonder if it is just a coincidence.

[glory]

I have no direct experience with music rights, but I’d bet based on related experience that the issue sometimes isn’t the composer and his “art” at all. I bet sometimes it just comes down to a lawyer or business manager (sometimes the both in one chair) who has a dogmatic view of the business of music. Those individuals see the possibilities in terms different from our view and maybe different from the composers’ as well.

That’s not to say there aren’t some composers who have a narrow vision of their music and won’t abide any deviation. As in all things drum corps, you have to wonder what would be possible if only they knew what we know.

HH