BRASSO Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) I am 100% with you. 1st world championship for Bloo or BAC sounds great to me. Yes,...( although to be fully accurate, BAC has won National Championships before..but not in DCI, of course. ) I'd like to see a couple of new Corps this season in the Top 7, just for good measure... maybe Madison and BAC ... that'd be sweet, imo ) Edited June 16, 2014 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShutUpAndPlayYerGuitar Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I asked the BD alums and die hard fans earlier in this thread and haven't really gotten an answer yet because everything was sort of derailed once the picture of the guard uniforms got released. But is the eagle on the shako considered to be a really big deal in the Blue Devils? Do people think it's an important "tradition" that's being tossed aside? I really don't know, and honestly, in all my years in drum corps never really even noticed (or cared) that they had an eagle on their shakos. I honestly don't know if there's a major "story" behind it, but my understanding is the eagle has been there since pretty much the beginning (if I'm wrong, let me know). It doesn't really matter if it never comes back, but I always liked the fact that no matter how crazy BD went with their uniforms, the eagle emblem was always on the shako. I'm not a traditionalist, and BD can do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned ... but I like having some sort of little connection to the past. As for the full uniform: I'll reserve judgement for when I see it live, but that picture makes it look milquetoast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seen-it-all Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I personally don't think cultural progression can happen without broken traditions. I don't necessarily disagree, but again, I don't think it applies in every single case. The traditions that really matter to a group of people will always tend to survive, so long as they remain relevant. Others will slowly fade away. But what are we really talking about here? The thing on the front of a shako. I'm amused that some people seem so upset that the eagle is no longer there when it never really seemed to be something that was an essential part of the Blue Devils mythos to begin with. At least to an outsider fan like myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregverdino Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 the only thing is winning is NOT a tradition, it's a skill and has nothing to do with any tradition. corps are where they are for many reasons Tradition isn't one of them though. But I guess I get what you are trying to express. Winning may not be a tradition, but you could say that excellence is ("a tradition of excellence"), and presumably the two are related. And wishing for a first time champion is a pretty well-worn drum corps tradition too. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 the only thing is winning is NOT a tradition, it's a skill and has nothing to do with any tradition. corps are where they are for many reasons Tradition isn't one of them though. But I guess I get what you are trying to express. Well take that point up with Brasso; I didn't mention the new champion thing, he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Well take that point up with Brasso; I didn't mention the new champion thing, he did Nah..you got it!...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Winning may not be a tradition, but you could say that excellence is ("a tradition of excellence"), and presumably the two are related. And wishing for a first time champion is a pretty well-worn drum corps tradition too. :-) one could say excellence is a tradition Personally I think excellence is earned and work, not a given.or something that automatically comes ( no matter who it is ) I think we like to THINK its a tradition BUT I dont think so.. Youre right though drum corps are ALWAYS wishing for a new champion........... back to the thread which is about uniforms Edited June 16, 2014 by GUARDLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregverdino Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I don't necessarily disagree, but again, I don't think it applies in every single case. The traditions that really matter to a group of people will always tend to survive, so long as they remain relevant. Others will slowly fade away. But what are we really talking about here? The thing on the front of a shako. I'm amused that some people seem so upset that the eagle is no longer there when it never really seemed to be something that was an essential part of the Blue Devils mythos to begin with. At least to an outsider fan like myself. Cadets' shakos have eagles. BAC's shakos have (or had - I don't know that I've seen 2014's shakos yet) eagles. When I marched in the 80s it seemed that if you wore a shako, that shako had an eagle. Not saying whether the eagle had any significance to BD - I wouldn't know (at best, the interwebs tells me age-outs get a plaque featuring their shako hardware, including the eagle, but that's all I see) -- but something tells me you'd find that the eagle made its way to the BD shako because at one point every shako had an eagle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seen-it-all Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Cadets' shakos have eagles. BAC's shakos have (or had - I don't know that I've seen 2014's shakos yet) eagles. When I marched in the 80s it seemed that if you wore a shako, that shako had an eagle. Not saying whether the eagle had any significance to BD - I wouldn't know (at best, the interwebs tells me age-outs get a plaque featuring their shako hardware, including the eagle, but that's all I see) -- but something tells me you'd find that the eagle made its way to the BD shako because at one point every shako had an eagle... That's kind of what I thought. Perhaps it was later imbued with some importance there, but in reality I think it was just part of the standard shako that everybody used back then. Edited June 16, 2014 by seen-it-all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flammaster Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 It is really strange seeing a shako without an eagle. I just always took it for granted that they have one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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