HornTeacher Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'd hate to see this occasional criticism of other fans spill over into the sports fans world. Heaven most blessedly forbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Tuma Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I would rather read someone's pseudo-intellectual ramblings and roll my eyes over it than wade through some of the bloviation about what I feel are the most mundane things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 They usually aren't, no. If you want an on-topic question (dunno how discussing the crux of your argument is off-topic, but that's fine), why do you have such an issue with people using this board as it's intended to be used? It's an outlet for opinions on drum corps, good or bad. Posts don't have to make a difference. No one has to care. All they have to do is follow the community guidelines and that's that. If you disagree with a post, you can ignore or you can debate it (with your post I'm taking the latter option). No one is under any obligation to demonstrate the relevance of their views. Now in that vein you're free to complain about people expressing views that you consider unimportant or irrelevant (which I take to mean you disagree with them but that's just supposition). And likewise I can point out why I think your complaint is ridiculous. That's fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonwoody Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Okay, I'm kind of just annoyed by this whole thing so bear with my mini rant. This season, for whatever reason, there has been a crazy rise in the number of people overthinking and over analyzing shows on this forum (let's call them OT's). They have been incessantly trying to shove down our throats how horrible today's shows are. We've gotten everything from complaining about "skirt-like" elements in uniforms, complaints of body movement (let's make a rotating cube instead of doing the chicken dance!), to complaints about how the Cadets are doing their #### math. They all have their own issues with current shows and the way that corps choose to exhibit their theme, but they all one thing in common: they all love to over analyze and go into obnoxious detail. You'd think, "hey, maybe they would like BD's show then!" BUT NOPE. It turns out they even have issues with the way BD is doing things. Hm. What has DCP done to deserve this? But I'm not here to wonder about the sins of committed by us crazy DCP posters. My question is this: what is the point? Yes, I do think all of your ideas have merit. Especially the complaints about body movement. But at the same time, how does it REALLY make a difference? How many people will realistically pick up on your little nitpicks about the way a corps presents their show? How many people will actually see the Cadets Waltz section and see the French horns (aka the "one") being attacked by the "many" (the rest of the corps)? How many people will look at the colorguard uniform and think "wow! Even the boys are wearing skirts! I sure wish the corps would stop the androgeny!" All these OT's will complain about "lazy design," but who really cares? When a majority of the audience is enjoying these shows without needing a ####### English major, what does it matter? There was a complaint about Cadets' colorful banners, oh so eloquently calling them "grade school art class bulletin board ugly." First of all, isn't that your own ####### opinion? Second, why is that bad design? Those banners are clearly helping the audience get a grasp of the theme at hand. Please don't take this as a personal attack. Nor should anyone take this as me trying to stifle discussion. I encourage people to share their views, no matter how much hate they get for it. I do the same. I'm just so sick and tired of seeing these OT posts and I want a real explanation of WHY it actually matters. And I want to know just how many of the audience is even going to pick up on these details. EDIT: edited to remove as many traces of the word "Pseudointellectualism" on this post with the exception of the thread topic since I can't change that. Please try to bring this back on topic. I don't want to just blow this all off but..... What happens here is what happens all over on the internet. They are called "Haters" . There are millions of them out there. They offer their negative opinion from drum corps to pizza. Vile, angry, immature people who have nothing better to do than to make a happy story all about their unhappiness lol. They live to make other miserable. Guess DCP is catching up to the rest of the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFZFAN Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Simply facepalming right now. I regret making this thread lol. Perhaps you need your second beer now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumbargleeful Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Straw man argument. I guess this might be true for some, but for me, I own an open innovation engineering company (mostly nanotech and biomedical work). I post a bit on DCP during the season because it's entertaining to take a break here and there. I guess that makes me a pseudo intellectual. The subject should be why DCI is doing what they're doing, and whether or not the shows are better for it. Ad hominem or straw man attacks are just as high school as a lot of the show design. I emboldened the most important part of that response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVG_DC Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 So far nobody has asked any of us mouth breathing, low brow, DCP pseudointellectuals to go out and drink some hemlock, ala Socrates. And thus, as golfcourse groundskeeper, Carl Spackler might say : .... " So,... I got that going for me. " Ok STOP right here. Before we get into discussing the truth, or the nature of the good....SOCRATES, HEMLOCK IS POISONOUS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) I don't want to just blow this all off but..... What happens here is what happens all over on the internet. They are called "Haters" . There are millions of them out there. They offer their negative opinion from drum corps to pizza. Vile, angry, immature people who have nothing better to do than to make a happy story all about their unhappiness lol. They live to make other miserable. . Medical Science needs to come up with an inoculation for this spreading worldwide contagion that has infected millions with HatersDisease. Maybe we can start with a simple qurantine of these people for starters. Give them a Right Thinking Quiz first. If they don't pass with at least a 70, give them a visit to the Reeducation School. If after 2 weeks of retraining, if they don't come out smiling and whistling like a Disney character, then we need to think seriously about a quarantine. The last thing we need is for these wrong thinking haters to cooexist with us nice, smiling, and right thinking people. We don't need their" hate" to coexist with our personal niceness and wonderfulness. Edited June 30, 2015 by BRASSO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) I don't want to just blow this all off but..... What happens here is what happens all over on the internet. They are called "Haters" . There are millions of them out there. They offer their negative opinion from drum corps to pizza. Vile, angry, immature people who have nothing better to do than to make a happy story all about their unhappiness lol. They live to make other miserable. Guess DCP is catching up to the rest of the internet. But you have to admit. With the internet ( and other things ) we have become a nation that makes excuses for very bad behavior sometimes, even using the constitution as a tool for it . Just because we can or am entitled doesnt mean we should. But you are so right. OK it's DCP to heavy...lol Edited June 30, 2015 by GUARDLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStainGlass Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Okay, I'm kind of just annoyed by this whole thing so bear with my mini rant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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