corpsband Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) In another thread a poster made a comment that Crown guard clearly "tosses too much" and that other guards "write to the sheet" better. I'd like explore that a bit. How much is too much? Where on the sheets is the correct number of tosses defined? If it's not on the sheet, how is that number defined? Is repeating a skill really redundant? Or does demonstrating a skill more than once prove mastery? In figure skating a quad clearly has more value than a triple. Does an ensemble 7 have more value than an ensemble 5? Let's discuss! Edited July 5, 2016 by corpsband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStainGlass Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 The amount of forced arches that hornlines do is probably more than the number of tosses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) The amount of forced arches that hornlines do is probably more than the number of tosses. First reply and you're gonna divert to body in the hornline ? j/k! Edited July 5, 2016 by corpsband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) In another thread poster made a comment that Crown guard clearly "tosses too much" and that other guards "write to the sheet" better. I'd like explore that a bit. How much is too much? Where on the sheets is the correct number of tosses defined? If it's not on the sheet, how is that number defined? Is repeating a skill really redundant? Or does demonstrating a skill more than once prove mastery? In figure skating a quad clearly has more value than a triple. Does an ensemble 7 have more value than an ensemble 5? Let's discuss! Personally, I don't have an issue with it. I love it...I also love the fact that Crown has almost their entire guard on rifles during the opener. It's cool as SH$T to see all those rifles, especially when they do those staggered tosses during the beginning of the opener. I say TOSS ON!!! Edited July 5, 2016 by 2000Cadet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 Personally, I don't have an issue with it. I love it...I also love the fact that Crown has almost their entire guard on rifles during the opener. It's cool as SH$T to see all those rifles, especially when they do those staggered tosses during the beginning of the opener. I say TOSS ON!!! well except when that last person doesn't catch solid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjf20 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 they toss when appropriate with the music, ain't nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcorpsfever Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Too many tosses? Too much tuna! If you got it, flaunt it! Toss away! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Too many tosses? I have a few more similar issues with some shows this year, so far Crossmen show has too good a groove, Cadets drums are too tight, Phantoms solos are way too gorgeous and Coats props are too much fun. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NakedEye Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 My friends and I have been of the opinion for years that toss-mania has infected the majority of the guards. Tosses in the ballad. Tosses in flowing melodic parts. Tosses where there is no discernible musical point of emphasis. Toss! Toss! TOSS! It may be mastery of skill, but oftentimes it is also mastery of bad taste. The notable exception to this air pollution is Blue Devils. Usually when they toss, it is a standout moment or really big hit. And because they don't overdo it, it has twice the impact. They are also brilliant at moments of nothing - small movements or bits of nuance that pull the audience in to the intricacy of what they are doing. Back when I used to be involved in improv, really experienced performers used to tell us to have the courage to do nothing, as sometimes that was the best choice. When you allow yourself to not cram every moment with excess, it lets the emphasis points resonate that much more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlejaw Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Personally, I don't have an issue with it. I love it...I also love the fact that Crown has almost their entire guard on rifles during the opener. It's cool as SH$T to see all those rifles, especially when they do those staggered tosses during the beginning of the opener. I say TOSS ON!!!I know I've heard some guard people knock on full guard riples because it takes up a lot of counts out of possible choreography.But I think that person talking about too many tosses is talking out of their ###. Have we noticed who has won the Zingali the last 8(?) times? BD's sabres are constant ripple tosses all over the show. Edited July 5, 2016 by littlejaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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