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It's fun to imagine that we can solve problems by talking about them on the internet.  The reality is that if you are not in close touch with the organization, it's useless to speculate on what the fix might be in any particular case.  Here's an example: a few years ago a certain alumni group was calling for the head of a certain program coordinator.  They got it.  That person is now coordinating the program for another corps.  Is he bringing them down?  Nope.  In fact, they are a lock for a medal this year and the odds-on favorite for gold.

Obvious-but-truism:  You really just can't analyze the dynamics of human relationships from a distance.

 

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I guess the "We never attack the members, just the staffs and admins" spouted by some doesn't apply here.

Hey Queenanne, I think your observation is fair but maybe not complete. You need to consider many things ... one of the things that both groups had in common was maturity/talent. With Star in 88 &

Ive been a life long fan of Madison and need to pipe in as a fan,  not alum, and not alum from any corps. Ive spent thousands on shows, gear and travel to see the scouts spanning back to 1985. This is

1 minute ago, vferrera said:

It's fun to imagine that we can solve problems by talking about them on the internet.

 

You never know, maybe it'll only take a few more pages of this thread to get Madison into finals. :sigh:

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11 minutes ago, vferrera said:

It's fun to imagine that we can solve problems by talking about them on the internet.  The reality is that if you are not in close touch with the organization, it's useless to speculate on what the fix might be in any particular case.  Here's an example: a few years ago a certain alumni group was calling for the head of a certain program coordinator.  They got it.  That person is now coordinating the program for another corps.  Is he bringing them down?  Nope.  In fact, they are a lock for a medal this year and the odds-on favorite for gold.

Obvious-but-truism:  You really just can't analyze the dynamics of human relationships from a distance.

 

YES...very and all true...issues go far beyond what the general public realizes and often not the obvious.

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3 hours ago, rpbobcat said:

The Scouts are in a different position  then The Cadets.

It seems to me that,if the Inquirer story doesn't break and mushroom,GH would,despite all the gnashing of teeth ,

still be running YEA along with his BoD.

I also don't know if there were any serious contingency plans in the event of a GH/BoD departure,until the 

Inquirer story came out.

Based on this,I don't know how the Alumni or any other group could orchestrate a coup of the current leadership.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There were many plans to take over for years. The sad part was to make it happen, something major had to happen.... and not in a good way. It’s how the corps stabilized as fast as it did 

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3 hours ago, kdaddy said:

You are something else. No really.

It would be pretty smart to have an idea of what's next before making moves. Nothing official, but putting some feelers out to others makes tremendous sense. It happens in, for example, college athletics all the time. Furthermore, if there's a desired design direction (perhaps even a specific designer in mind), it would make sense to try to hire leadership that can make that happen. There's nothing wrong with thinking about that now rather than waiting around until making a change.

And you think I advocate not doing that?

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30 minutes ago, MikeRapp said:

So many people think raising funds is as easy as making it “a priority.” 

Raising money is so hard to do! People are kind of delusional.

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48 minutes ago, vferrera said:

It's fun to imagine that we can solve problems by talking about them on the internet.  The reality is that if you are not in close touch with the organization, it's useless to speculate on what the fix might be in any particular case.  Here's an example: a few years ago a certain alumni group was calling for the head of a certain program coordinator.  They got it.  That person is now coordinating the program for another corps.  Is he bringing them down?  Nope.  In fact, they are a lock for a medal this year and the odds-on favorite for gold.

Obvious-but-truism:  You really just can't analyze the dynamics of human relationships from a distance.

 

The recent success of SCV is more attributed to an amazing staff, but primarily Michael Gaines who gave them that boost they needed.  I wouldn’t give Koter the credit, sorry. Please don’t forget that Scott was coordinator for the Cavaliers 2012-2015, without Gaines, and look what that brought them (their lowest consecutive placements since the 80’s). Personally im glad the Cavaliers had the huevos to make the move to replace him.

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