Tim78 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, contrajedi8 said: Yeah. Both years. What a streak... Yes it is. I am glad that you concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copyright Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, contrajedi8 said: Yeah. Both years. What a streak... Southwind was great at 2002 Semis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrajedi8 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 hours ago, copyright said: Southwind was great at 2002 Semis. Sick burn, bro. However, I'll stack SW history against Pio history any day of the week if you want to play that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copyright Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, contrajedi8 said: Sick burn, bro. However, I'll stack SW history against Pio history any day of the week if you want to play that game. Thought it was odd you were mentioning semis performance considering... Southwind also has a history of restarting after the 97 season and again recently. Pioneer benefitted from their inactivity in 1998 with connections at Murray State picking up several members. I think we both can agree that both corps had difficulties getting down the road in recent years as other groups were beginning to charter. I am a Southwind fan (was listening to 2001 just this morning) - at least you can appreciate that they reorganized themselves and are now an active corps again, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The latest from Pioneer: https://pioneer-corps.org/news-from-the-top/842-news-from-the-top-january-17th,-2019.html?fbclid=IwAR2e59me-pFKp8_RAPfTXjaNy8nf_zxmEY_ZLykPr9wGnQtTi0M2ca120R4 It is worth noting that for the first time, Roman actually makes an effort to apologize and take some responsibility for the situation, but I think his perspective remains flawed. Contrary to his opening statement, DCI did not "sacrifice" anyone; Roman sacrificed the corps' standing by refusing to step aside. And describing the situation as "the mess the corps is in" rather than "the mess I ( Roman) caused" shows that he still doesn't feel fully accountable for what he has caused. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjoakes Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Did he also imply that complaints and problems should be handled in-house? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadevilina Crown Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Galen said: The latest from Pioneer: https://pioneer-corps.org/news-from-the-top/842-news-from-the-top-january-17th,-2019.html?fbclid=IwAR2e59me-pFKp8_RAPfTXjaNy8nf_zxmEY_ZLykPr9wGnQtTi0M2ca120R4 It is worth noting that for the first time, Roman actually makes an effort to apologize and take some responsibility for the situation, but I think his perspective remains flawed. Contrary to his opening statement, DCI did not "sacrifice" anyone; Roman sacrificed the corps' standing by refusing to step aside. And describing the situation as "the mess the corps is in" rather than "the mess I ( Roman) caused" shows that he still doesn't feel fully accountable for what he has caused. He flat-out said he is remaining with Pioneer. Proof that their DCI days are finished. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjoakes Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Cadevilina Crown said: He flat-out said he is remaining with Pioneer. Proof that their DCI days are finished. Yes. Invited others to form their own corps, but no one is going to touch Pioneer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmit26 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, mjoakes said: Did he also imply that complaints and problems should be handled in-house? I took it as more of a statement than an implication. I also think Roman still feels this would have all gone away if it weren't for that pesky "social media." Pioneer is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Corps Guy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, Cadevilina Crown said: He flat-out said he is remaining with Pioneer. Proof that their DCI days are finished. "Parade Corps" time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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