N.E. Brigand Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Just now, garfield said: This is wrong. JNJ manufacturing facilities have the capability of producing 300million antivirus doses to the market in 90 days. That's first hand knowledge from the head of biotech drug development at JNJ. See this post. The top infectious diseases person at the NIH says it will take 18 months to produce a vaccine. What do you know that he doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Just now, karuna said: began research. stopped it. submitted their antivirus to the FDA for clinical trials two days ago. What news are you watching? A client is a biotech pharma rep for company in the antiviral hunt; they believe they are 7 days away from submission. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karuna Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, garfield said: submitted their antivirus to the FDA for clinical trials two days ago. What news are you watching? A client is a biotech pharma rep for company in the antiviral hunt; they believe they are 7 days away from submission. yes they have restarted. yes that gives them a head start. no one has ever brought a vaccine for a coronavirus to market yet. even if it experiences no problems on it's path to production, its at least 18-24 months away. sorry. marketing <> reality and confusing the two is irresponsible. as i said earlier, it's amazing to watch both sides of the talking points play out. Edited February 29, 2020 by karuna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) It does bear repeating that most people who contract this disease will completely recover. Here's a new article in the Washington Post by someone who was on the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan and bought back to the U.S., where he is in quarantine: "I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad." He was tested upon leaving the ship, but the results weren't confirmed until after he reached the U.S.; he began developing symptoms on the flight back. After nearly two weeks, he seems to be making a full recovery, although he still tests positive for the virus and remains in quarantine. Edited February 29, 2020 by N.E. Brigand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karuna Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, N.E. Brigand said: It does bear repeating that most people who contract this disease will completely recover. Here's a new article in the Washington Post by someone who was on the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan and bought back to the U.S., where he is in quarantine: "I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad." He was tested upon leaving the ship, but the results weren't confirmed until after he reached the U.S.; he began developing symptoms on the flight back. After nearly two weeks, he seems to be making a full recovery, although he still tests positive for the virus and remains in quarantine. Very true. We live with influenza every day and it's mortality rate annually is about 0.1%. Covid-19 so far appears to have a mortality rate of about 2%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skevinp Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, N.E. Brigand said: See this post. The top infectious diseases person at the NIH says it will take 18 months to produce a vaccine. What do you know that he doesn't? I think he was thinking of the antivirus and not the vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skevinp Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, karuna said: (antivirals are also ineffective unless introduced within 24-48hrs of contracting the virus. unfortunately most people don't know they're going to get really sick that early) Which begs the question: how quick could we produce a reasonably accurate detection/diagnosis means and get it out to the masses, so we could get antivirals to the people who need them in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karuna Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, skevinp said: Which begs the question: how quick could we produce a reasonably accurate detection/diagnosis means and get it out to the masses, so we could get antivirals to the people who need them in time? Testing kits are certainly important. Thing is if you think you just have an ordinary cold, how long would you wait before going to get tested? And will you do that for every cold? Vaccines are really the best solution for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 "...no worse than the flu..." The New England Journal of Medicine https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032?query=RP 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, karuna said: Testing kits are certainly important. Thing is if you think you just have an ordinary cold, how long would you wait before going to get tested? And will you do that for every cold? Vaccines are really the best solution for this. Fever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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