Per the California Attorney General Vanguard is operating illegally as a non profit

[Jeff Ream]

12 hours ago, Richard Lesher said:

But now SCV as an organization cannot ask (solicit) for said donations, and those with money have to be convinced they are worth giving it to in spite of financial oversight going completely sideways. 

No offense but it clearly hasn’t stopped them and honestly reporting them kills the organization. I’m with you I want them back and run legally and run well. But there’s also the chance of unintended consequences if the whistle is blown.

[Jeff Ream]

7 hours ago, Tenoris4Jazz said:

Good info.  At the companies I've worked for, if big stakeholders don't like what they see/hear, they use their checkbooks and have board members replaced with their own people.  I don't see this as an option here though.  Am I wrong?

From what I’ve seen it’s YEA but replace band circuit with bingo

[Jeff Ream]

5 hours ago, ZTWright said:

Until they clear house, I don't give a #### what they do, they've lost my support. When you still have a single person on staff who was involved in this whole fiasco I still won't support SCV. They literally failed the ones they're meant to "serve" first and foremost, the marching members. They've lost all credibility with just that in my eyes. 

The debt has been "paid back" according to them, now it's time to clear house completely and start over again from the ground up while the opportunity is still present before they screw everything up again and SCV disappears forever. Until then, my hands have been washed and dried. 

Staff as administrators or staff as instructional?

[Richard Lesher]

8 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

No offense but it clearly hasn’t stopped them and honestly reporting them kills the organization. I’m with you I want them back and run legally and run well. But there’s also the chance of unintended consequences if the whistle is blown.

I've played this game before with them. Bad people don't eventually do good things. Waiting for it to magically happen just doesn't work that way.

I've more than dragged on my actions long enough and dropped enough hints they should have been able to act fast enough to counter anything I do, but they don't. They literally have been lying since 2020. 

1) Sept 2022 I offered to help with a bingo committee. Told thanks but no thanks

2) OK fine, did a wait and see from Sept, and then the A-Corps gets the boot in Dec. right after taking audition money. OK GAME ON!!!!!!!!!!!! Clearly something was up they were never going to disclose. 

3) Filed a DCI ethics complaint in Jan 2023 revolving around the unethical conduct of the core leadership. Again, nothing happened. 

3a) I ponder the Bingo payroll question and SCV comes at me with an attorney, and attorney by the way who was on the Board of Directors when SCV stopped conducting audits. I didn't know that then, now I do, and it has embolden me and my efforts. He and SCV leadership are lying or at best misrepresenting the truth. 

4) Things meander along aimlessly with oblivious planning. Jeremy Van Wert eventually forced to resign, but no other action forward. 

5) I dig up the Dept of Justice notifications going back three years. OK, this is a long standing problem, they are ignoring best advice and locking out material efforts to help from all directions. So I submit ANOTHER ethics complaint to DCI with the DOJ letters as support. AGAIN, DCI is all about I hope SCV fixes itself. 

6) Time is up and time to purse another legal complaint avenue. I have one more card to play, and that is to submit a complaint to the CA Gaming Oversight Commission and just attack Bingo Head On. 

I have reconciled the possible consequence of my actions. I am at peace. I think at the end of the day the worst regulators will do is force SCV to fix itself if that means closing up shop and coming back later after it fixes everything and asks permission to start back up again. 

I am not the one that started 2022 with $5M in liquidity and run it into the ground

I am not the one that closed both corps. 

I am not the one that defaulted on short term debt

I am not the one that shut off $1,200,000 in member tour fees used to pay bingo staff

I am not the one that stacked the overhead with staff

I am not the one that continues to allow the Bingo Manager to work from home from Hawaii!!!!!!!!!!!

If these people are not stopped they will run SCV into a situation where SCV loses the Bingo Hall. If that happens then SCV and anything else that could rise is done. Even if they lose a bingo license, they could probably get that back after they turn a new leaf. If they lose that building that's that. 

If all that is standing in the ashes is the building, and the ability to start up bingo from scratch, and start up a new program from scratch that still gives them a few million a year to work with, and that's plenty. 

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I am honored folks think I am the all powerful internet Troll.

My power comes from SCV's leadership's inaction.

It would be so easy to defeat me if by time my complaints work through the State's system that by time they connect with SCV that SCV is in a position to hand off the complexities of the situation to their CPA firm focusing everything on the problem at hand. 

If the state gets to them, and nothing has happened, welp, they had it coming. 

[ZTWright]

55 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

Staff as administrators or staff as instructional?

Entire overhaul. Completely clean sweep and clean slate. As "tight knit" as the organization claims to be, there had to be some sort of info floating around the entire organization. A clean sweep means cleans slate to start rebuilding from the ground up, which is what needs to happen.

[greg_orangecounty]

1 hour ago, Richard Lesher said:

I have reconciled the possible consequence of my actions. I am at peace.

Including a defamation lawsuit?  In my opinion you're now treading into that arena.  I admire what you're doing and glad you're at peace, but you should also consider the potential impact to the owners of DCP.  

[Terri Schehr]

6 hours ago, greg_orangecounty said:

Including a defamation lawsuit?  In my opinion you're now treading into that arena.  I admire what you're doing and glad you're at peace, but you should also consider the potential impact to the owners of DCP.  

They could but the truth is your best defense. 

[IllianaLancerContra]

6 hours ago, greg_orangecounty said:

Including a defamation lawsuit?  In my opinion you're now treading into that arena.  I admire what you're doing and glad you're at peace, but you should also consider the potential impact to the owners of DCP.  

It is ok to yell “Fire” in a crowded theater if there is indeed a fire.  

[IllianaLancerContra]

58 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:

They could but the truth is your best defense. 

Yes.  Defamation suits are conducted in public with discovery and all. Does SCV want all their internal communications to become public?

To further pontificate, if OP has records / communications backing up his statements, and SCV is indeed out-of-compliance with California law, it would not be wise to accuse OP of defamation.  

Edited May 3, 2023 by IllianaLancerContra
Further pontificating

[Slingerland]

8 hours ago, greg_orangecounty said:

Including a defamation lawsuit?  In my opinion you're now treading into that arena.  I admire what you're doing and glad you're at peace, but you should also consider the potential impact to the owners of DCP.  

Nah, assuming he has the receipts (email comms from them, etc) plus the official state records that support the assertions, there's nothing here that comes close to having enough turf to support a defamation suit. Nonprofit orgs are there to operate for the public good, and when they get into trouble and then tell people "mind your own business" - which SCV has, consistently, to all sorts of experienced people in the activity who have offered to help - the non-profit has given up any claims to operating for the public good.

DCI's membership will have to force the issue. unfortunately. The DCI Board should entertain a resolution that Vanguard will not be allowed to be back on the tour next year until they meet standards of transparency and can show that they are in full compliance with any and all state laws and regulations, with an August 1 deadline, so kids know by Finals week whether SCV is legit or not. They were given a lot of latitude over the winter to clean up their mess, and while paying down the debt is a big step, there were obvious issues of mis-management going back 3 or 4 years that will have to be unf__ked before anyone else in the activity should trust them.

Edited May 3, 2023 by Slingerland