scheherazadesghost Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: i'd be ok with the yell being back ah, you mean designed in again. me too! I'll continue to force one until they do. there are few feelings like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 7 hours ago, Jurassic Lancer said: Please … no retreads … be a vanguard in all its meanings. The ‘Bingo’ show is not a retread- just sayin’. 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 7 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: design smart. teach smart. plan smart. the rest usually falls into place. The ‘smart’ is in limited quantity and there in lies the critical flaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 9 hours ago, LabMaster said: To clarify, don’t start the season with an unfinished show if you’ve had camps, ST and a top notch staff designing and teaching. The top 15 should start with a full show. Beers on me if someone goes out without their full show. When the season gets underway, you are going to be tapped out (so to speak). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scheherazadesghost Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) On 1/14/2024 at 6:34 AM, cixelsyd said: When the season gets underway, you are going to be tapped out (so to speak). I mean, none of the three productions I marched were finished by first show iirc. 🤷🏽♀️ But maybe that's just my gray hair showing? (Rhetorical question, no response needed🫠.) Edited February 8 by scheherazadesghost 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 21 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: Philosophical question- Is it better to have a standard that potentially members need to meet, even if that means a smaller Corps (say 100 members); or do you lower standards so you can march a full Corps? Yes and no. Sacrificing a little size for quality can work in your favor. But 100 vs. 165 is sacrificing too much. It also depends on which standards are at stake. If a brass player or front ensemble player cannot play a certain part, they can be taken off of it. A snare/tenor/bass drummer cannot hide in that manner, so a minimum standard is more important there. Hard to hide anyone visually, so standards matter more there. And the most important standard is attitude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, scheherazadesghost said: I mean, none of the three productions I marched were finished by first show iirc. 🤷🏽♀️ But maybe that's just by gray hair showing? (Rhetorical question, no response needed🫠.) You have touched a nerve. Rant incoming, not aimed at you but on the idea that it is ok to field an incomplete show early in the season. <<Rant on>> Point is that participants in “Marching Music’s Major League” should be able, after 3+ weeks of spring training, put a full-length show on the field. The fans are paying money to see them. If one went to the Broadway premiere of Phantom of the Opera & they stopped midway through the second act, what would the reaction be? The paying audience deserves a full length show from day one of season. Yes it will be cleaned and stuff added throughout the summer, but the bones need to be present from the get-go. Timing penalties should be enforced from the beginning of the season. <<Rant off>> Edited January 14 by IllianaLancerContra 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scheherazadesghost Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 21 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said: You have touched a nerve. Rant incoming, not aimed at you but on the idea that it is ok to field an incomplete show early in the season. <<Rant on>> Point is that participants in “Marching Music’s Major League” should be able, after 3+ weeks of spring training, put a full-length on the field. The fans are paying money to see them. If one went to the Broadway premiere of Phantom of the Opera & they stopped midway through the second act, what would the reaction be? The paying audience deserves a full length show from day one of season. Yes it will be cleaned and stuff added throughout the summer, but the bones need to be present from the get-go. Timing penalties should be enforced from the beginning of the season. <<Rant off>> Completely fair. And, well, despite the shows I marched being great and all, I cannot say that staff had it together enough to design and teach efficiently. They just drilled us into the ground instead. So to your point earlier, if staff has it together, fielding a full show should be child's play. I really really want our staff to have it together for the members this season. Support them fully, treat them like royalty, and set them free. If that happens, we'd see a Vanguard we've never seen before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverCityAndTroopersFan Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 9 hours ago, scheherazadesghost said: They would be breaking the promise the CFO made to me that they'd retire it. So please no. Sorry I didn’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corps8294 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 The season starts at the end of June. There should be no reason for any corps to be fielding an incomplete show at that point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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