Jeff Ream Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Just a question/observation Here we (or at least some) are getting our collective knickers in a twist over a facebook posting by Hoppy. I believe this is not the first time he has done this. Is this thread a discussion that was looking for something to respond to? Or has something new happened & I am too dense to notice? more new has happened. read all the way through ( ignore the parts about GE) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRyder_FMM Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Some have said that adding WW will cost more. Has anyone done the actual math on that? I bet Hopkins has, and it starts like this: -) If you're going to add enough of them for an entire bus, then that's at least 50 WWs -) 50 x $3000 tour fees = $150,000 -) Camp/Audition fees for literally HUNDREDS of new players: $150 x 600 = $90,000 So we're at $240,000 already. Wouldn't that go a long way to cover the bus/driver/food/instrument cost? For a typical single-function $1,000,000 corps that's a 24% increase in revenues, for a 33% increase in the bodies (going from 150 to 200). With the economies of scale, I'm sure it's more of a wash than a burden. I think you are forgetting about most of the cost associated with that revenue. More members means more equipment, which means another vehicle on the road to haul the additional equipment. What about the kitchen trailer? Most would be unable to feed the additional 60-65 mouths that come with an additional 50 members. There is not enough space for the number of people necessary to prepare that many meals each day, nor is there sufficient room to storethe extra food. You may need another vehicle to carry the extra food and prep facilities. That translates into more vehicle costs, insurance, fuel, drivers, maintenance costs, etc. Simply adding members does not solve financial issues. While there are a few fixed cost elements where additional members make sense (i.e., fill every seat on every bus you drive with a paying member), most costs are variable (i.e., more kids = more food, more uniforms, more equipment, etc.). Members pay less than half of the cost of their participation. So using your numbers, the additional $150,000 of revenue from member tuition means an additional $300,000+ of expense. Where does the funding for the extra $150,000+ come from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I think you are forgetting about most of the cost associated with that revenue. More members means more equipment, which means another vehicle on the road to haul the additional equipment. What about the kitchen trailer? Most would be unable to feed the additional 60-65 mouths that come with an additional 50 members. There is not enough space for the number of people necessary to prepare that many meals each day, nor is there sufficient room to storethe extra food. You may need another vehicle to carry the extra food and prep facilities. That translates into more vehicle costs, insurance, fuel, drivers, maintenance costs, etc. Simply adding members does not solve financial issues. While there are a few fixed cost elements where additional members make sense (i.e., fill every seat on every bus you drive with a paying member), most costs are variable (i.e., more kids = more food, more uniforms, more equipment, etc.). Members pay less than half of the cost of their participation. So using your numbers, the additional $150,000 of revenue from member tuition means an additional $300,000+ of expense. Where does the funding for the extra $150,000+ come from? In Hop's view it should come from DCI and the O-14 corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyboy Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 ok, so how do you get 23 directors to agree to it? therein lies the problem! I don't know how the DCI BOD bylaws work, but maybe the same people that bounced the G7 a few years ago could manage a coup of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 In Hop's view it should come from DCI and the O-14 corps. Which would seem at odds with his complaint that it's too hard to start a new corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Why's everybody upset? I like it when GH hits the egg nog a little too hard then takes to Facebook to post his musings. I don't know, however, why he continues to complain. He's a self-proclaimed man of action. Why isn't he leaving DCI and moving on to his vision of greatness? DCI is the problem in his opinion. So..... what are you waiting for Hop? Edited December 12, 2013 by HockeyDad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 like ticks were Exactly!!! It is a fuzzy logic kind of thing on what constitutes a tick. Sort of like determining when an apple, while being eaten, turns into an apple core? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasboot Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Out of sheer curiosity, could someone PM some info on how to find George's Resignation Letter? I am greatly curious about it, and I can't seem to find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (p.s. looking at DCI news today, how much does a trip to Japan cost...?) It says he was invited - maybe the Japanese organization picked up the tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Why's everybody upset? I like it when GH hits the egg nog a little too hard then takes to Facebook to post his musings. I don't know, however, why he continues to complain. He's a self-proclaimed man of action. Why isn't he leaving DCI and moving on to his vision of greatness? DCI is the problem in his opinion. So..... what are you waiting for Hop? It's lonely to have one's own sandbox when there is no one around to see your brilliance. Edited December 12, 2013 by garfield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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