jwillis35 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 From a legal perspective it's very simple: The employee of Lucas Oil Stadium has the right to ask the Troopers and their staff to exit an area regardless of corps traditions. It is the job of the drum corps to first and foremost follow the rules of the stadium. The instructor of the Troopers, who are licensing use of the stadium (through DCI), must know of those rules and follow them. Failure to do so is not good. Becoming irate and starting a physical fight with a stadium employee is not only wrong, but it's assault with intention to harm. LOS and their employee may file suit against the Troopers. DCI may try their best to smooth things over so it doesn't come to a suit. Most likely this Troopers' instructor will be canned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) From a legal perspective it's very simple: The employee of Lucas Oil Stadium has the right to ask the Troopers and their staff to exit an area regardless of corps traditions. It is the job of the drum corps to first and foremost follow the rules of the stadium. The instructor of the Troopers, who are licensing use of the stadium (through DCI), must know of those rules and follow them. Failure to do so is not good. Becoming irate and starting a physical fight with a stadium employee is not only wrong, but it's assault with intention to harm. LOS and their employee may file suit against the Troopers. DCI may try their best to smooth things over so it doesn't come to a suit. Most likely this Troopers' instructor will be canned. Just to be clear, the LOS employee threw the first punches (metaphorically speaking, I think he actually attempted a chokehold rather than a punch). But regardless, the Troopers' instructor escalated it way past where it should have gone. Edited August 14, 2016 by Cappybara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroopAlum12 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 From a legal perspective it's very simple: The employee of Lucas Oil Stadium has the right to ask the Troopers and their staff to exit an area regardless of corps traditions. It is the job of the drum corps to first and foremost follow the rules of the stadium. The instructor of the Troopers, who are licensing use of the stadium (through DCI), must know of those rules and follow them. Failure to do so is not good. Becoming irate and starting a physical fight with a stadium employee is not only wrong, but it's assault with int LOS and their employee may file suit against the Troopers. DCI may try their best to smooth things over so it doesn't come to a suit. Most likely this Troopers' instructor will be canned. Indy police told Tim he could press charges against the LOS guy for assaulting him first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subcritical Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Just like many other scandals on DCP this will soon be forgotten. He may step down, he might not. He might be fired, he might not.History here has shown that issues like these-and issues more egregious-will remain in the spotlight for a period of time, and then shortly be forgotten. The DCP community has a short memory, or perhaps chooses to forget scandals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Where can we find the "longer video"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroopAlum12 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Where can we find the "longer video"? It currently exists only on Facebook and is not publicly visible, though that may soon change in response to the shorter video making the rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumManTx Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Honestly I wasn't there so I'm not gonna make any judgements. I have thoughts on what that 12 second video, but I didn't see what happened before that. He may have got a little out of hand at the end there, but I'll trust that he was defending himself. In the end, I've learned a video doesn't always offer the true story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Honestly I wasn't there so I'm not gonna make any judgements. I have thoughts on what that 12 second video, but I didn't see what happened before that. He may have got a little out of hand at the end there, but I'll trust that he was defending himself. In the end, I've learned a video doesn't always offer the true story. You sound like a mature person. Unfortunately, this means you stick out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumManTx Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 You sound like a mature person. Unfortunately, this means you stick out. :O I will see myself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Tim represents the Troopers in this situation. It's that simple. would Jim Jones condone this behavior? Tim was the Troopers at this moment. Your values matter most in a moment of crisis. Sometimes you need to be the bigger man. Okay, he was put in a choke hold. Yeah? So? You represent the Troopers Tim. What should you have done? His reaction cannot be rationalized away. He should apologize to his corps and step down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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