Tobias Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Agreed! As much as I love SCV's show, they do not have the brass prowess of the Cadets which will help them most in the end. However, I do believe SCV will overtake the Cadets in GE eventually.Cadets and SCV will stay close for now. Cadets much dirtier do to rewriting so much of their show but "could" pull ahead once done with changes (stage removal and getting rid of grid drill). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Cadets and SCV will stay close for now. Cadets much dirtier do to rewriting so much of their show but "could" pull ahead once done with changes (stage removal and getting rid of grid drill). are these changes officially in the works? anyone know or are we just supposing? I do know they have more color, other changes and additions planned 3 weeks and a couple days to clean clean clean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snare_guy_83 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) Would love to see the Visual breakdown to know where the gap between Bloo and Crown occurred. Edited July 22, 2016 by snare_guy_83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NakedEye Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Fundamentally, I now wonder if Down Side Up will always be the fan favorite, but always not look totally "clean" by judging standards. The Gold is going to come down to one or two tenths of a point, and in fact that may be the spread between first and fourth. With that fine a margin, I just don't know that Bluecoats will get that final tip of the hat by the judges that I suspect BD and Crown are designing their shows to get. I think the issue currently is the last part of the drill is quite messy. It looks relatively clean (especially considering the white uniforms) up to that point, but when they begin the series of constant rotations in the center near the end, interval problems were everywhere. It may need to be hosed a bit, or slowed down. Smart adjustments there will make it more achievable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relics Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Would love to see the Visual breakdown to know where the gap between Bloo and Crown occurred. I think VP and CG is where crown has been stronger in these head-to-heads, but your guess is as good as mine. I'm interested in how Crown is getting beat in Music. With a competing percussion who's beat Bloo and BD already this year and the strongest contender for the Ott (albeit my opinion) AND a the best Klesch/Hannum arrangement yet, I thought music would be THEIR strength this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I think VP and CG is where crown has been stronger in these head-to-heads, but your guess is as good as mine. I'm interested in how Crown is getting beat in Music. With a competing percussion who's beat Bloo and BD already this year and the strongest contender for the Ott (albeit my opinion) AND a the best Klesch/Hannum arrangement yet, I thought music would be THEIR strength this year. And note that Cadets were only off Crown in music by one tenth and a half. For the audience's ears, this is all going to be very sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NakedEye Posted July 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2016 I would love it if you could elaborate on your final comment there. Your in-depth comments are frequently very helpful to those of us with less of a design sensibility. Thanks. Regarding Bluecoats use of space: I hadn't seen the shows from high camera before last night, and it was eye opening. Bluecoats are doing things from a compositional standpoint that beautifully reflect the music, and the approach more resembles a stage show than a marching band production. It's not theatrical, like Blue Devils, but it has a lot of the feel of a Blast or similar. Not surprising, as key individuals on their staff were also part of Blast. I specifically noticed their emphasis on entrances and exits. When the horns, more than once, do the double-file follow-the-leaders around the perimeter, it reminds me of going off into the stage wings to prepare to enter for the next scene. As soon as they start to visually diminish, there is a different focal point which becomes very clear, such as the guard on the slides, etc. They also create entrances and exits over the tops of the slides numerous times and in a variety of ways. Sometimes straight ahead, other times from the sides. The result of all this is fantastic clarity of focus. I rarely felt there were any parts competing for attention. If you were looking at one area, whatever else was also happening on the field at the same time was designed to be filler. What first grabbed your attention was where you were supposed to look. Specifically the section where they have the slides like a "half pipe", with numerous members kind of trickling from back to front, up and down the slides. That is so well constructed and sort of reminds me of a pachinko machine. Just as the bulk of the people moving forward approaches the front, they are joined by more members that sort of bleed in too increase the mass. Another great entrance is the guards introduction of silks into the ballad. They essentially "diffuse" from the front sideline back. It's like dropping food color into clear water in the way it moves back into the white. The whole composition is so well balanced, but also really interesting and unusual when compared to their direct competition. It's all punctuated by the magenta slides, and when they move them, their motion always works with the overal picture. Also the guard is practically never in the usual toolbox of forms that have become standard: arcs, spread blocks overlaying something else, etc, etc. Instead they are in mass forms a lot, but very compact mass forms, so they are part of the overall picture, but never act as a frame or filler for it. It may be because the slides are so visually dominant, that the guard needed to be smaller chunks of color to work with them, rather than compete, which would become cluttered. Just great stuff. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mboogey73 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I think VP and CG is where crown has been stronger in these head-to-heads, but your guess is as good as mine. I'm interested in how Crown is getting beat in Music. With a competing percussion who's beat Bloo and BD already this year and the strongest contender for the Ott (albeit my opinion) AND a the best Klesch/Hannum arrangement yet, I thought music would be THEIR strength this year. It's such a small margin though and could just be the by product of the personal preferences of the judges on a particular night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Flat Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 It's such a small margin though and could just be the by product of the personal preferences of the judges on a particular night. I could not agree more. I think BD and Crown will battle for the top brass trophy come finals. I think BD and Bloo will battle for the top percussion trophy come finals. I think BD and Crown will battle for the top color guard trophy come finals. I think BD and Bloo will battle for the top GE in music trophy come finals. I think BD and Crown will battle for the top GE visual trophy come finals. All in all, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd placements will be determine by the margins on each caption, but I do think the top 3 will be within .6 of each other. What I think will happen on finals night: BD/Crown tie. What I want to happen on finals night: Crown wins by .6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brians Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 there are rules in place to prevent ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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