Popular Post Liahona Posted July 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, 777hornman said: OK since you asked. DCI CORPS cannot sustain these staff outrageous staff salaries. The only reason these staff members went to BAC was because they tripled their salaries. DCI is a very small group. Staffs jumping corps for money ? Is it OK for members to jump corps if they were to get paid? If you remember staffs went for the money once before with the MAGIC from ORLANDO. So it does not surprise me. It is just not good for Drum corps to have staffs leave org.they have been part of for money. This is not the loyalty DCI teaches its members so why is it OK for staff members ...IT IS NOT . CHANGE IS GOOD agreed.But this is not a staff member. THis was a overhaul and gutted Crown and Cadets. Since you obviously want to repeat yourself again I will respond this time.. The last time your comments were removed by the mods, so I see you now have toned down your anti-Boston campaign to a level that will pass scrutiny this time. You fail to realize there are really TWO main reasons Boston staff LOVES being there. They all WANTED to work together and when that opportunity presented itself they made the move. They ENJOY the creative freedom that Boston has given them. As for your loyalty point that DCI teaches it's members to be loyal...I call BS to that as well. There are countless members that have marched multiple corps. Generally, but not always the members leave their respected corps for pastures anew...and I don't fault any of them for that. Gutted Crown and Cadets? Okay now your comments reach the level of laughableness. Do you realize how many other years Boston has lost great staff to other top tier corps? I never heard Boston complaining about it either. When you decide to be less disingenuous let me know... Edited July 22, 2017 by Liahona 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry7184 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 10 hours ago, 777hornman said: OK since you asked. DCI CORPS cannot sustain these staff outrageous staff salaries. The only reason these staff members went to BAC was because they tripled their salaries. DCI is a very small group. Staffs jumping corps for money ? Is it OK for members to jump corps if they were to get paid? If you remember staffs went for the money once before with the MAGIC from ORLANDO. So it does not surprise me. It is just not good for Drum corps to have staffs leave org.they have been part of for money. This is not the loyalty DCI teaches its members so why is it OK for staff members ...IT IS NOT . CHANGE IS GOOD agreed.But this is not a staff member. THis was a overhaul and gutted Crown and Cadets. I don't know the inner works of BAC's balance sheet, but people whom are happy at their current jobs generally don't leave. Did their salaries really triple? Where did you get that information from? Not doubting you - I just have never heard that. We'll see how this decision pays out for BAC, but so far it has been more than wonderful for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry7184 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Liahona said: As for your loyalty point that DCI teaches it's members to be loyal...I call BS to that as well. There are countless members that have marched multiple corps. Generally, but not always the members leave their respected corps for pastures anew...and I don't fault any of them for that. Yes, exactly. When I marched in the late 80s and early 90s, I would have never dreamed of leaving the corps I was with. Fortunately, I got the competitive success I wanted with them. Nowadays, I don't know if I would be as loyal. I certainly would not have chosen the corps I marched with back then today. DCI is like a sport. Like in any sports, athletes do what they think is best to win. I don't think it's any different with the top talent today. They want to work with the best instructors to further their future careers. I didn't want a career in music or dance when I marched - I think more marches do today than in the past. They do what they need to to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Liahona said: Since you obviously want to repeat yourself again I will respond this time.. The last time your comments were removed by the mods, so I see you now have toned down your anti-Boston campaign to a level that will pass scrutiny this time. You fail to realize there are really TWO main reasons Boston staff LOVES being there. They all WANTED to work together and when that opportunity presented itself they made the move. They ENJOY the creative freedom that Boston has given them. As for your loyalty point that DCI teaches it's members to be loyal...I call BS to that as well. There are countless members that have marched multiple corps. Generally, but not always the members leave their respected corps for pastures anew...and I don't fault any of them for that. Gutted Crown and Cadets? Okay now your comments reach the level of laughableness. Do you realize how many other years Boston has lost great staff to other top tier corps? I never heard Boston complaining about it either. When you decide to be less disingenuous let me know... While it is true that many who marched Cadets' brass last season(s) are not marching there this season, it is fallacious to say that they followed Gino to Boston. Bloo, BD, CC, got as many as BAC. Most just stayed home on the main. I agree with Liahona on this. Edited July 22, 2017 by xandandl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabMaster Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 11 hours ago, 777hornman said: OK since you asked. DCI CORPS cannot sustain these staff outrageous staff salaries. The only reason these staff members went to BAC was because they tripled their salaries. DCI is a very small group. Staffs jumping corps for money ? Is it OK for members to jump corps if they were to get paid? If you remember staffs went for the money once before with the MAGIC from ORLANDO. So it does not surprise me. It is just not good for Drum corps to have staffs leave org.they have been part of for money. This is not the loyalty DCI teaches its members so why is it OK for staff members ...IT IS NOT . CHANGE IS GOOD agreed.But this is not a staff member. THis was a overhaul and gutted Crown and Cadets. OK maybe you don't understand the roles of these folks at BAC. They are also heading up other areas of the organization. They are not just limited to BAC. You mention they tripled their salaries. How did you come to know this? is this a problem you also have with SCV and BD? Or just Boston? Now that they obtained a staff equal to other top corps? What does SCV pay their staff? How much is Gaines paid? Or Sacktig with Crown or Aungst with Cadets. The overhaul you speak of may best be explained by the staff members themselves. What is good for DC is for other corps having the opportunity to obtain staff and not have everyone in the top most tier sit still and leave the status quo, so no staff goes anywhere and year after year after year, the top groups remain the same and lower tier corps have no chance to rise and challenge. Boston decided to make a move, to not just hope things magically work out, so maybe just maybe, they can win a championship. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiga Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I HAVE personally spoken with every new design team member at BAC, and guess what? They ALL mentioned some version of artistic/creative freedom as being their number 1 motivator for coming to BAC. Yes, they are paid well. So aren't the designers at BD and SCV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Flat Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Can we all take a couple of deep breath's in this thread and just get excited for the first regional tonight? With that said, my current mid-season finals predictions for placements are as follows: 1) SCV 2) Crown 3) BD 4) Bloo 5) Cavies 6) Boston 7) Cadets 8) Blue Knights 9) Phantom 10) BlueStars 11) Crossmen 12) Mandarins 13) Madison Scouts 14) The Academy 15) Colts 16) Troopers 17) Spirit of Atlanta 18) Pacific Crest 19) Oregon Crusaders 20) Genesis 21) Cascades 22) Jersey Surf 23) Pioneer ***Please take this prediction with a grain of salt, as it is just the opinion of one fan and holds no merit other than that.*** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barneveld Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, B-Flat said: Can we all take a couple of deep breath's in this thread and just get excited for the first regional tonight? With that said, my current mid-season finals predictions for placements are as follows: 1) SCV 2) Crown 3) BD 4) Bloo 5) Cavies 6) Boston 7) Cadets 8) Blue Knights 9) Phantom 10) BlueStars 11) Crossmen 12) Mandarins 13) Madison Scouts 14) The Academy 15) Colts 16) Troopers 17) Spirit of Atlanta 18) Pacific Crest 19) Oregon Crusaders 20) Genesis 21) Cascades 22) Jersey Surf 23) Pioneer ***Please take this prediction with a grain of salt, as it is just the opinion of one fan and holds no merit other than that.*** WTF!! I can't believe you forgot INT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConJam Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 So what is Crowns program about? I just do not get it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandonovan Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, ConJam said: So what is Crowns program about? I just do not get it... Deconstructionism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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