xandandl Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, rpbobcat said: So, if this passes ,can we anticipate an oboe or bassoon soloist ? Does anyone know if a "kazoo" is considered a musical instrument ? I for one can't wait to hear the harmonica when a corps plays "Thunder Road". Kazoos were used by Guardsmen BITD, harmonica was used by BD (Yowza!) and The Cavaliers previously. Oboe and bassoon by BOA, UIL, and USBAnds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersnyder Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, rpbobcat said: So, if this passes ,can we anticipate an oboe or bassoon soloist ? Does anyone know if a "kazoo" is considered a musical instrument ? I for one can't wait to hear the harmonica when a corps plays "Thunder Road". We can have oboe and bassoon solos now on the sideline, right? So that part hasn't really changed as it would have to be miked. If Yamaha sells it, it's an instrument. Is a kazoo much of a stretch from playing a brake drum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, cybersnyder said: We can have oboe and bassoon solos now on the sideline, right? So that part hasn't really changed as it would have to be miked. If Yamaha sells it, it's an instrument. Is a kazoo much of a stretch from playing a brake drum? good point. But keeping elbows locked and uniform as the kazoo section jazz runs back stepping to far sideline while trilling a triple tongue mellophone-like sustain will take some getting used to, ha, ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, cybersnyder said: If Yamaha sells it, it's an instrument. Is a kazoo much of a stretch from playing a brake drum? Lol flashbacks to Steel City Ambassadors. And trying to remember the non-finalist DCA with the beer kegs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, cybersnyder said: We can have oboe and bassoon solos now on the sideline, right? No. But electronic instruments are allowed. So if the bassoon has an orange cord coming out of it, that might skate by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Terri Schehr said: Call their bluff. Say see ya. “Gee maybe it’s time for a change...” or “corps survival is more important than any individual” then “bye” Wow my first year I was 16/17 and rode with two BoD members of a corps just trying to get back on the field. Heard enough horror stories of getting loans to buy equipment let alone prima dona salaries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 That reminds me. The any-instrument proposal says that regarding judging, woodwinds would be "treated in the same manner as other non-traditional instruments". Can anyone explain what that means? How are other non-traditional instruments treated in the DCI judging system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn426 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 17 hours ago, HockeyDad said: You don’t know that. Perhaps as an effect there is a WW only moment where there are more WW than brass but really, its just a moment, the exception.. Where there is a size limit in place, 1 Brass player is more effective than 1 WW player without any mics. Coming from a small Band program, for GE purposes there simply is no substitute for a wall of sound. The Brass will consistently be the only vehicle for the Wall of Sound that gets credit on the judging sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, cybersnyder said: I think that all instrument will pass. Maybe a good idea since it’s a very fundamental change to the voicing of the ensemble is to allow OC to field woodwinds. It gives them a greater pool to recruit from and WW as part of drum corps will need to prove itself. there's thousands of kids not marching now after cut because for whatever reason, OC is not pulling them in. that's something that should be addressed 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 2:50 PM, MikeN said: https://www.dci.org/news/2020-dci-rules-congress-proposals-at-a-glance The short list - click above for the details. Brass Amplification Limitations Proposed by: Michael Martin, The Cavaliers ---------------------------------------------------------- Evaluation Structure Innovation Proposed by: Chris Komnick, Nick Monzi, Jason Robb, Madison Scouts ---------------------------------------------------------- Color Guard Sheet Enhancement Proposed by: Denise Bonfiglio, The Cadets ---------------------------------------------------------- Any Instrument Policy Proposed by: Kathy Black, DCI Board of Directors ---------------------------------------------------------- Allow for Live Sampling Created in Real Time Proposed by: Matt Jordan, Jon Vanderkolff, Bluecoats ---------------------------------------------------------- Rules and Systems Task Force Voted On by the Membership Proposed by: Lindsey Vento, The Academy ---------------------------------------------------------- Scoring System Update Proposed by: Marie Czapinski, DCI Adjudicator ---------------------------------------------------------- Sound Reinforcement Limits Proposed by: Steve Vento, The Academy I don't know how it's all going to come out in the end... but I do know that 1 request essentially for the inclusion of woodwinds by an administrative figure (and relative outsider) and 2 requests for sound reinforcement limitations by insiders are not terribly compatible concepts. I also know that the request for woodwinds as an inclusive measure has a major flaw in logic that everybody can see and many have pointed out. So... there's that. I'm also extremely curious about what kind of voodoo the Bluecoats are after with that one... I think I'd like to hear that (but then again, there are 2 calls for limitations on the most basic premise of electronics on the field). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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