MarimbaManiac Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, jaylogan said: Incorrect Very compelling argument. Lots of good points made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRapp Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 All art is derivative. In fact all human creation is derivative, by design and by nature. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylogan Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, MarimbaManiac said: Very compelling argument. Lots of good points made. Thank you. I already knew I had the winning argument, so I went with the “less is more” approach! Edited August 14, 2022 by jaylogan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarimbaManiac Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, jaylogan said: Thank you. I already knew I had the winning argument, so I went with the “less is more” approach! If that's how you choose to view it, I aspire to your level of delusion. Corps don't design shows for the purpose of artistic expression. They universally design with the purposed of being competitive. Blue Devils especially design with the primary goal of ticking enough boxes to win, at the expense of artistic expression. Everything that is designed from that point is done with the express purpose of utility, not art. It's no more art than a commercial jingle is art, or a company slogan/logo is art. It's design for the purpose of utility, and not art. You are free to enjoy whatever you want in the manner you choose, but let's not delude ourselves in thinking that what happens on those fields is anything other than what it is, a competitive exercise based primarily on excellence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylogan Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, MarimbaManiac said: If that's how you choose to view it, I aspire to your level of delusion. Corps don't design shows for the purpose of artistic expression. They universally design with the purposed of being competitive. Blue Devils especially design with the primary goal of ticking enough boxes to win, at the expense of artistic expression. Everything that is designed from that point is done with the express purpose of utility, not art. It's no more art than a commercial jingle is art, or a company slogan/logo is art. It's design for the purpose of utility, and not art. You are free to enjoy whatever you want in the manner you choose, but let's not delude ourselves in thinking that what happens on those fields is anything other than what it is, a competitive exercise based primarily on excellence. You’re already well past my level if you think what the corps produce on the field is not art. Goal achieved! Congrats! Edited August 14, 2022 by jaylogan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidWAmericanArts Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Rylan said: This is why I love that you’re a regular on here. You’re always the first to compliment and cheer for all the corps and the first to be the mature one if need be. (Even though you’re totally right.) ❤️ I appreciate that! I’m certainly not perfect, but I try to do the right thing. Thank you! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post saxfreq1128 Posted August 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, MarimbaManiac said: If that's how you choose to view it, I aspire to your level of delusion. Corps don't design shows for the purpose of artistic expression. They universally design with the purposed of being competitive. Blue Devils especially design with the primary goal of ticking enough boxes to win, at the expense of artistic expression. Everything that is designed from that point is done with the express purpose of utility, not art. It's no more art than a commercial jingle is art, or a company slogan/logo is art. It's design for the purpose of utility, and not art. You are free to enjoy whatever you want in the manner you choose, but let's not delude ourselves in thinking that what happens on those fields is anything other than what it is, a competitive exercise based primarily on excellence. By this logic, artists whose primary goal is making money — not “expression,” not “art,” but the nuts and bolts of putting food on the table, padding their work in order to make it more monetarily valuable — aren’t artists. They’re checking boxes for money’s sake. Dickens, for example: Wrote longer books when he was being paid by the word, not for the sake of artistic expression, but to make more money. Not an artist? Artists working strictly on commission: Not artists? Are you prepared to agree with that? Because it’s pretty ridiculous, and you shouldn’t. The idea that art is only art when it’s untouched by base considerations like competition or commerce or whatever is a very old, very naive, very purist idea. It’s never been true and it never will be. In the first place, looking at what happened on that field last night and saying it’s not art is silly. Pretending there’s a box that BD checked that every other top corps didn’t also check is even sillier. Yet even you, being silly, could be an artist. Great, isn’t it? 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFA1970 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I had a work engagement yesterday, so I missed all the fun. I'll watch the re-broadcast, but I did watch just watched the retreat show on YouTube and wow the Cavies took a scoring hit. It looked like they were pulling away from Mandarins and PR and wham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopcornEater1963 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, DFA1970 said: I had a work engagement yesterday, so I missed all the fun. I'll watch the re-broadcast, but I did watch just watched the retreat show on YouTube and wow the Cavies took a scoring hit. It looked like they were pulling away from Mandarins and PR and wham. Visual analysis. Percussion. Somehow the Cavaliers forgot how to execute to those parts of the sheet on the very last night of the season. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAtenhut Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 So many people LOVED Boston this year!! So many people LOVED Bluecoats this year!! They tie and both get silver medals!!!! We should all be so happy for both of them. Yet people STILL find sh to complain about. DCI will never win with you people. 🙄 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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