ironlips Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: here i'll add fuel.... it stopped being a bugle when the first valve was added. ( i'll get my popcorn now) This is precisely what my mentor, John Sasso, said when someone complained that the contra bass was a bridge too far. Actually, folks have been messing with the "natural horn" for centuries, in every key imaginable. Check this out (and re-load the popcorn bowl): https://www.drumcorpsplanet.com/2014/05/inside-the-arc-to-key-or-not-to-key/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ironlips said: This is precisely what my mentor, John Sasso, said when someone complained that the contra bass was a bridge too far. Actually, folks have been messing with the "natural horn" for centuries, in every key imaginable. Check this out (and re-load the popcorn bowl): https://www.drumcorpsplanet.com/2014/05/inside-the-arc-to-key-or-not-to-key/ I'd pay extra to see a corps use that Royal Kent Bugle instead of trumpets one year. That thing looks beastly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) test Sorry, I had a big reply written, but DCP gave me an error so I cannot post the reply. This comment can no longer be edited. It may have been moved or deleted, or too much time may have passed since it was posted for it to be edited. Edited October 19, 2022 by jjeffeory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: Real buglers don’t need no stinkin’ valves Those valves are for the college kids; just lip it… 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironlips Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lance said: I'd pay extra to see a corps use that Royal Kent Bugle instead of trumpets one year. That thing looks beastly. It's a beast simply to hold, never mind playing the bugger. It really does sing on "God Save the King" in concert F, however. I think that was it's original job in any case. The Duke of Kent wanted his drum and bugle band to blow away all those wimpy woodwind groups. Edited October 19, 2022 by ironlips clarity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Anova Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, ironlips said: This is precisely what my mentor, John Sasso, said when someone complained that the contra bass was a bridge too far. Actually, folks have been messing with the "natural horn" for centuries, in every key imaginable. Check this out (and re-load the popcorn bowl): https://www.drumcorpsplanet.com/2014/05/inside-the-arc-to-key-or-not-to-key/ Cool fictional story reposted here Bro. I'd love to hear " Chief Musician, Pepus Notarius, "... lol... ( a.k.a, Pepe Notaro ) real take on all this if he were alive today. 😊 Ironically, for those interested in American history re. instrumentation in " traditional Drum Corps ", going all the way back to American Colonial Days, unlike many of our European friends at the time, our earliest " traditional Drum Corps " utilized woodwinds ( fifes ) not brass instrumentation ( a bugle ). It was not until much later that the bugle was added to the military styled " Drum Corps ", principally utilized to awaken the troops from sleep, and/ or as a rallying instrument to " march ". The bugle was chosen principally by later US military units due to its utilitarian value to carry sound loudly and at great distance , something a fife for example by comparison, could not due as efficiently. Edited October 19, 2022 by Boss Anova 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 14 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: Real buglers don’t need no stinkin’ valves thanks Corporal O'Reilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 11:36 PM, ironlips said: One is not better than the other. They are just different, with different advantages and disadvantages. Sounds like the members of my family. 😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traverbanking Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 The infantry (soldiers who marched on foot) used fifes because it takes both hands to play a fife. The cavalry (soldiers who rode a horse) needed one hand to hold the reins of the horse, so they could not play fifes. They played bugles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, traverbanking said: The infantry (soldiers who marched on foot) used fifes because it takes both hands to play a fife. The cavalry (soldiers who rode a horse) needed one hand to hold the reins of the horse, so they could not play fifes. They played bugles. In Royal Marines band it is the drummers who are also buglers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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