C.Holland Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1. Go dig up that tax stats and look at losses over the last 3 years. 2. admin, show costs, are maybe 10% of the operating budget. The rest is housing/facilities, travel, food. In that order. gaming operations costs money to run. When you’re not allowed to run it, there are still costs piling up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Lancer Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, drumcorpsfever said: THE DAY THAT DRUM CORPS DIED Bye, bye, Miss American Pie … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, sunnyday72 said: I get the sense that they are being honest when they say they tried everything. I feel bad for the members. Hopefully they really do use this year to figure things out and come back strong. this should have been evident before they started having camps. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newseditor44 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Staff costs are normally a smaller portion of the budget for most corps, as are props. Most corps get their uniforms/costumes for free as part of marketing agreements. Transportation, housing, fuel have nearly quadrupled over the last decade and are what is killing the activity. Renting tractor trailers, buses, finding drivers, increased insurance costs, and revenue streams that are more difficult to find are what is pulling the activity under. In fact, if you polled most corps directors they would probably tell you the thing they worry about the most is revenue. It’s getting more and more difficult to find ways to make money to support the rising costs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Holland Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Jeff Ream said: this should have been evident before they started having camps. Why pay attention to the books? Someone will donate something right? It’s happened before… right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: this should have been evident before they started having camps. SCVC going inactive was the first clue 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetOFFmyDot Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I’m not sure if this is upsetting, an example of how poorly SCV is being run, or confusing (or a mixture of all three!) but… SCV offered contracts YESTERDAY for members to March this summer. YESTERDAY! jeez! 3 1 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Holland Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Newseditor44 said: Staff costs are normally a smaller portion of the budget for most corps, as are props. Most corps get their uniforms/costumes for free as part of marketing agreements. Transportation, housing, fuel have nearly quadrupled over the last decade and are what is killing the activity. Renting tractor trailers, buses, finding drivers, increased insurance costs, and revenue streams that are more difficult to find are what is pulling the activity under. In fact, if you polled most corps directors they would probably tell you the thing they worry about the most is revenue. It’s getting more and more difficult to find ways to make money to support the rising costs. Driver come as part of the lump sum rental on the busses and tractors. Housing is unpredictable thanks to how school admin mandate and charge for it. There’s no negotiation anymore. Some corps only hold home show now because the loss on housing in minimized during their time in the city with it. Otherwise they’d be in hotels. (It’s cheaper than using a school for the night) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Newseditor44 said: Staff costs are normally a smaller portion of the budget for most corps, as are props. Most corps get their uniforms/costumes for free as part of marketing agreements. Transportation, housing, fuel have nearly quadrupled over the last decade and are what is killing the activity. Renting tractor trailers, buses, finding drivers, increased insurance costs, and revenue streams that are more difficult to find are what is pulling the activity under. In fact, if you polled most corps directors they would probably tell you the thing they worry about the most is revenue. It’s getting more and more difficult to find ways to make money to support the rising costs. Serious question- does the transportation category include the cost to flying staff members to and from various tour & camp locations, or are staff transportation costs covered under, well, staff costs? I could see it argued either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Holland Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said: Serious question- does the transportation category include the cost to flying staff members to and from various tour & camp locations, or are staff transportation costs covered under, well, staff costs? I could see it argued either way. No. Compared to the costs to house a corps at a school those flights are nothing. Staff/admin/show designs and chatchkis (and staff flights) are combined maybe 10% of the budget. Maybe. that’s being generous. Sometimes air miles are donated from board, and friends, or thanks to credit card kickbacks, air fare is sometimes a wash. Edited December 13, 2022 by C.Holland 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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