Just an idea, SCV

[IllianaLancerContra]

35 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:

Well, maybe. It’s close to the airport if memory serves. 

Location Location Location 

[Sutasaurus]

1 hour ago, Terri Schehr said:

Well, maybe. It’s close to the airport if memory serves. 

Hmmmmm. Sounds like DCI ‘83 Orange Bowl. Not a nice side of Miami.

[greenland]

On 2/15/2023 at 12:50 PM, jjeffeory said:

The only problem is that's Texas....

Yaeh, Delaware would be preferrable

[Jeff Ream]

3 hours ago, greenland said:

Yaeh, Delaware would be preferrable

there's a huge sports complex between Dover and the beaches....tons of fields normally tied up with soccer and field hockey. might be enough that every section could have their own drill field

[rjohn76]

10 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:

Have you ever been there?  I thought it was a little sketchy around there.  

I had a chance to stop there a couple times about 10 years ago.  It is directly east of the Milwaukee airport, with a Wisconsin Air National Guard base in between.  Mostly industrial properties in the direct vicinity of the property.  Single family homes & some apartments about a quarter mile up the road.  Honestly not a terrible spot to have the property from a noise standpoint.  I didn't feel that the place or area were all that sketchy.  Some of the industrial properties looked a little distressed, but that wasn't all that concerning in the grand scheme of things.

10 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

I prefer to think of it as a site that, in the right hands, has potential.

I felt like there was a lot of untapped potential in the property.  Supposedly the plan all along was to build a multi-purpose facility on the site that would serve as a corps hall, bingo hall, and rehearsal space.  For whatever reason, that never happened... but the corps website still references it:

https://www.pioneer-corps.org/about/pioneerland-history.html

 

[Terri Schehr]

8 hours ago, rjohn76 said:

I had a chance to stop there a couple times about 10 years ago.  It is directly east of the Milwaukee airport, with a Wisconsin Air National Guard base in between.  Mostly industrial properties in the direct vicinity of the property.  Single family homes & some apartments about a quarter mile up the road.  Honestly not a terrible spot to have the property from a noise standpoint.  I didn't feel that the place or area were all that sketchy.  Some of the industrial properties looked a little distressed, but that wasn't all that concerning in the grand scheme of things.

I felt like there was a lot of untapped potential in the property.  Supposedly the plan all along was to build a multi-purpose facility on the site that would serve as a corps hall, bingo hall, and rehearsal space.  For whatever reason, that never happened... but the corps website still references it:

https://www.pioneer-corps.org/about/pioneerland-history.html

 

oh well, agree to disagree. 

[craiga]

22 hours ago, Sutasaurus said:

Hmmmmm. Sounds like DCI ‘83 Orange Bowl. Not a nice side of Miami.

Legendary BAC off-field performance prior to prelims there in 83.

[IllianaLancerContra]

1 hour ago, craiga said:

Legendary BAC off-field performance prior to prelims there in 83.

I have heard several versions of the story- not sure which to believe 

[MarimbaManiac]

On 3/7/2023 at 12:44 PM, jjeffeory said:

Ok, what's the recent labor law that was passed in California?

I see wage laws. Is that what is hurting SCV?

https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/Garment/New-Labor-Laws-in-California.html

I assume they are talking about BA5, which reclassifies independent contractors as employees in many situations. Last I was aware, staff were all paid as 1099 contractors, with a flat (EMBARRASSINGLY LOW) fee for the entire season. Perhaps BA5 forced them to start paying minimum wage, which if so...good. 

[cixelsyd]

On 3/12/2023 at 9:34 AM, MarimbaManiac said:

I assume they are talking about BA5, which reclassifies independent contractors as employees in many situations. Last I was aware, staff were all paid as 1099 contractors, with a flat (EMBARRASSINGLY LOW) fee for the entire season. Perhaps BA5 forced them to start paying minimum wage, which if so...good. 

I am not so sure.

In that context, does "wage" take into account that corps pay for feeding, housing and transporting their staff?  Because if not, there is a question over whether a one-size-fits-all law forcing a minimum "wage" in all situations irrespective of other quantifiable benefits is even appropriate or practical.  

Of course, there is a larger issue.  Many have already decried the idea of staff getting rich off the drum corps activity.  Drum corps is more of a hobby, not intended to provide full-time, year-round living wages for people.  In particular, when it comes to design/instructional staff, there has always been a degree of volunteerism exhibited among the people who serve in these roles (sometimes 100% so).  Do we really want a law to remove that option from corps?