N.E. Brigand Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I may be kinda old fashioned . . . I want to see kick ### fast movement. I don't want to hear stand tunes, I don't want to see park and blow . . . leave the props for high schools. If I want a story I'll read a book or go to the theater. I like hearing music I have never heard before. Ah, but if you were really old-fashioned, you might be looking back to a time before there was "kick### fast movement"--and there was often a "concert number" where the corps stood still for quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I may be kinda old fashion....I want to see kick ### fast movement. I don't want to hear stand tunes, I don't to see park and blow...leave the props for high schools. If I want a story I'll read a book or go to the theater. I like hearing music I have never heard before. who ever came up with this concept, should be sent to Russia. Please don't think I'm picking on you, but I'd really like to understand your perspective because I see such the opposite of your description here. I'd enjoy hearing your perspective with actual examples so I can see what you're describing. And if not, hey, no biggie. Glad you're still around giving the shows a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 as if dissecting marching band shows isn't petty and silly enough.jeez (oops) i mean, wow. back on topic, i guess i just don't understand why anybody would put any mental energy towards contemporary DCI if they clearly don't like. i can kind of understand it from corps alums who only keep up with dci because of their former corps. Well played, Sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Attention all dinos. ATTACK! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Guns Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Attention all dinos. ATTACK! They added the ocean. LOVE IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2muchcoffeeman Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) What is "regional touring," anyway? Troopers hold move-ins in central Indiana, and begin their seasons motoring around the Midwest. Is that "regional" for a corps based in Wyoming? The Troopers invented the nationally touring drum corps. Why? They had to. There IS no "local circuit" in the Mountain Time Zone. Edited July 23, 2016 by 2muchcoffeeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Hope it doesn't really reflect back so much white as appears in that photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Remember when we were told that trombones would only be a solo/cameo instrument, and no one would ever march a section of them in the drill? Or how pit amplification was over $10,000 just to get into the game, so only full size corps would ever use it? How about Bb/F brass being "optional"? Every one of these equipment rule change proposals has been preceded by people "in the know" telling me there is nowhere near the support needed to pass. When that proposal does come in a few years, there will still be people insisting it has no chance of passing, nothing to see here, blah blah blah. (And please, spare us the silly argument about maintenance. Bands all over the country use woodwinds in every conceivable climate. Nowhere do you see a circuit where bands omit woodwinds because it is too hot/too cold/too dry/too wet. Ultimately, they will be used no matter what the maintenance burden. Look at the burden we already have. Just watch the corps setting up, with props and stages carried by additional trailers and/or dozens of corps members, while others carry the multiple brass instruments they will swap in/out during the show, lugging huge speakers, running dozens of cables in two minutes flat. You think these same corps will balk at woodwinds because that would require too much extra care?) if you actually believed them, shame on you. it's the same straw fed to the cattle before amps. however the factor in woodwinds is cost....a cost that no corps wants to touch.there's only one person pushing for it, and their influence in the room has been waning since they heyday of the G7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Except that most corps in World Class, right down to the bottom, are already marching close to, or at, 150. Surf marched 142 last year at Indy, I believe - adding 8 more people certainly wouldn't hurt, but isn't really going to make an appreciable difference in their overall budget (~$28k). What I see as one of the biggest financial hurdles is that when a player moves from a lower-placing corps to a higher-placing corps, and then ages out and is an alumnus of both corps, which corps do you think is going to see the most donations from that player? shame on that corps for not doing more to retain the members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 The shows presented today require a lot more from the audience than in the "good old days". In the 60's (my generation) there were lots of "toe tapping" numbers and outstanding soloists who created entertainment from a crowd that, well, "knew what they liked". Today, you'd better read up on your Shakespeare, study the Corps' program notes, listen to recordings of the source materials, be up on your understanding of how judges score, understand current drum techniques, have an understanding of dance movement . . . need I go on? I have to study today's shows on the internet to appreciate them. Do I enjoy today's shows live as much as those of yesteryear? Well, let's get real. Yes. In 1968, for example, sitting in the stands in Detroit, the shows mostly washed over me. Yes, a few highlights stuck out, but no more or less than today. I created my treasured memories of that period by listening to Fleetwood records repeatedly, so that I could appreciate the music more fully. Sound familiar? Okay. So here's the deal. The kids love their activity just as much as we, the dinosaurs, did. They'll have the same memories and nostalgia as we do. Now as to the fans sitting in the stands (or at the computer screen), you have a choice. You can either accept that today's activity has grown more sophisticated and educate yourself accordingly or you can reject today's activity because it no longer resembles the activity you participated in. Or because it no longer "entertains you". It's your choice. But beware that your claim that drum corps just isn't as entertaining to you as before marks you as unwilling to grow. I say this to myself as much as to my fellow dinosaurs. I don't mean to sound condescending. One more anecdote. I brought my 81 year old Mom to the Rosebowl this year. She chaperoned my corps back in the 60's and has very fond memories of the corps music played in those times. Today, she can barely hear, but when I asked her whether she wanted to come to a show (as she has for the last 10 years), she emphatically said, "you bet". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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