Tobias Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, Fan of the Arts said: There were some questionable marks in the recaps which could have had the Cadets even closer. It was not a good not for the soloists in Pittsburgh. Fan of the Arts I'm not a fan of having a Soloist sit on a pew while playing. At least early season, let him stand so he can properly breathe. Sitting does nothing g for effect but is not the best for playing. Ensembles are different in that you have numbers but not a soloist especially this early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleran Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tobias said: Sitting ... is not the best for playing. I think the Vienna Philharmonic, and a few others, might have something to say about that. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Eleran said: I think the Vienna Philharmonic, and a few others, might have something to say about that. I'm referring to kids that are marching around early in the season before chops are maximized. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 58 minutes ago, Sideways said: Good trend and encouraging but full panels change the spreads...for better and worse. yup. Of course! Still better than things cruising the opposite direction ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I think as mute panels see them, they will move up. Say what you want but early season first viewing, their most current perception of Cadets is 2016. Maybe it shouldn't be but it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Windish Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, yogitom said: No disrespect to SCV, but I would say they would be the most likely. When was the last time they were in the top 3? In the last 10 years they've been mostly 4-5 with a few 6's and a 7th thrown in. I know it's their anniversary year, but I don't understand why so many people (not just you) have them pegged for a top 3 finish. If forced to choose, I would ALSO say SCV. But, 2017 SCV gives me an entirely different feel than the other corps I've seen, and in a good way! Their drill design is a stand-out. It has great clarity, and knowing Santa Clara, they will absolutely perfect it into something that is more impressive than the others. Add in what seems to be top shelf brass and percussion, perhaps stronger than 2016, I'll going to hold them in my podium group until the end. As you probably guessed from earlier comments, I find Carolina Crown much too unsettled, and the quantity of vocal is not a plus. No matter, we're looking at a very strong field . . . . . . even when we can't recognize who they are, by apparel ! Edited June 28, 2017 by Fred Windish 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwillis35 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Usually Mistified said: I'll bite - Blue Devils. The first 6 minutes of the show do not grab me. Visual trips down memory lane did not go well for their Bay area rivals in 1992 either. The color guard rifle spins and the sideline company front certainly give a base to "morph" from but the amount of time devoted to it, imo, is excessive. The butterfly flag spins is also very historic - they've been used numerous times by BD color guard. They may still win high brass, but a fourth place finish is not unheard of for the Blue Devils - its just unheard of in twelve years, 2005 and twelve years before that in 1993. Interesting you say the first 6 minutes do not grab you. Totally respect your take. To me, their first 6 minutes are the best part of their show right now. I LOVE it!! I think, similar to Carolina Crown, that BD's second half of the show is not finished. They have lots of scatter and clutter because I believe they have not finished the visual. In a few more weeks I think we will get a better read on their show. In 2015 they had to change their ending something like 3 times, but ultimately they got it right. I also think they have more musically that is not in the show ending. I still think they are the corps to tangle with Bluecoats. At this moment I put SCV with Crown. I think that would be a good match up. Crown likely marches, spins, and does brass better; and SCV would win percussion and visual. Just a guess. I still think Crown can be a dangerous show. If they can make the right adjustments that connect their theme I believe they have the performers to challenge almost anyone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Tobias said: I'm not a fan of having a Soloist sit on a pew while playing. At least early season, let him stand so he can properly breathe. Sitting does nothing g for effect but is not the best for playing. Ensembles are different in that you have numbers but not a soloist especially this early. COMPLETELY agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usually Mistified Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, bicsta said: Amen. Low viz demand. Lots of park and bark. Lots of scatter drill. Comment on scatter drill not a comment on any show this year...it's not drill, it's poor design. Other, than the Cadets 1987 where it was new, dramatic and a revelation, the use of scatter drill has been annoying. Worst case for me, or more accurately worst cases were the Cadets and Blue Devils 1996 - another tie from 1996! If memory serves me, the Cadets the Blue Devils had a combined 17 scatter sections. The judges poured salt on my pet peeve by scoring them 1-2 in both Quarter's and Semi's and 1-3 in Final's for Visual Ensemble. (FYI - yes, this drum corps nut remembers slights and irritations forever.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Tobias said: I'm not a fan of having a Soloist sit on a pew while playing. At least early season, let him stand so he can properly breathe. Sitting does nothing g for effect but is not the best for playing. Ensembles are different in that you have numbers but not a soloist especially this early. Then by all means never ever lay horizontal or leaning off to the side while standing within a wheel while playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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