MikeRapp Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Only saw that first bit on the DCI website and thought it was pretty good as far as what it’s set up to be, a reality show based around drum corps. The Blue Devils may have done a better job casting their members with more sympathetic back stories so my impression is they will come off looking better. Yet, they still have the BD attitude from the staff on down that rubs me the wrong way but may appeal to others. In fact, almost everyone annoyed which makes for good reality TV. Do Blue Devils have a stake in it? I noticed some Blue 44 logo somewhere. I’ll probably wait until the entire show is done before I sign up for the free Hulu smaple, that way I can see it all I guarantee you the show is editing this together to trump up the "arrogance" factor. I have asked who signed the contracts and no one has yet answered. I assume it was George and Scott. Regardless, I know from experience working on similar shows that the show is in charge of who they cast, and they purposefully look for controversy and big personalities. And they purposefully set up situations where those people will say things that, out of context, look a lot bigger and more aggressive than they were intended. So take what you see here with at least a dozen grains of salt, so to speak. It isn't reality, except that it happened. How it is edited together is where they tell the story THEY want to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleran Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Do Blue Devils have a stake in it? I noticed some Blue 44 logo somewhere. 44 Blue Productions, not Blue Devils. "44 Blue Productions is an award-winning producer of non-fiction, docuseries, reality, lifestyle and action-adventure programming, whose series have aired on more than 40 television networks and in more than 120 countries worldwide. Founded by Rasha and Stephanie Drachkovitch, 44 Blue’s impressive slate of groundbreaking series includes A&E’s two-time Emmy-Nominated Wahlburgers, new series Donnie Loves Jenny and first-responder hit docuseries Nightwatch; MSNBC’S critically acclaimed Lockup and its spinoff series Lockup: Raw, Lockup: World Tour and Life After Lockup; Animal Planet’s top-rated Pit Bulls & Parolees, Style’s Emmy-nominated Split Ends, Spike’s Deadliest Warrior and OWN’s Gracie Award-winning Married To The Army: Alaska. 44 Blue is repped by William Morris Endeavor." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liahona Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I’ll probably wait until the entire show is done before I sign up for the free Hulu smaple, that way I can see it all I like your thinking! Thanks for this great idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRapp Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Does anyone know a way to watch this show in the Netherlands? It's not available in the dutch iTunes store. Just like the Fuse and Hulu apps, they aren't available too. I know that there are a lot of drum corps people here in Europe who wants to see Clash of the Corps. I'd try AppleTV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingusmonk Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I watched a couple of the outtakes on other sites last night. They were excellent, very powerful, very revealing—especially the one about the girls trying to work enough to raise funds. But I realized after watching these outtakes that I like the documentary style of filming (which is the style of the outtakes), rather than the direction the show is taking. That's just me, obviously—nothing wrong with that. They went to a more fast-cut, energy and excitement theme of editing rather than a slower focus on interaction between characters. Perhaps that changes as the season evolves. Even compared to other super successful docu-dramas, the style of the editing for Clash is very different. Many more edits, a lot more "shaky cam" and quick rack focus shots. Compare this to Orange County Choppers, Deadliest Catch, Fast and Loud and even Undercover Boss. I bet there are three times as many edits in COTC than any of those series. It could be that they believe the younger market will like this style of editing. But it also may be because they really were not prepared for the challenge of a 100 yard football field. It takes time to adjust to the scale and speed of drum corps, and it appears as though they had to edit the first two episodes together with whatever stuff they got—therefore, a lot more very short shots, a lot more random than you (or they) might have wanted, and a lot more disjointed at this stage of the season. I know from shooting college football that it takes time to adjust to "how" to shoot on a stage that large with that many people running around. It took me a full football season to begin to get it. You waste so many shots shooting on a football field. You have to figure out how to pick out things to shoot before they happen, and you have to know the game well enough to anticipate where the action will take place. Otherwise you are out of focus and two seconds late. I have a close friend who shot the Nashville show for (I believe) Marching Magazine. He had never seen the BC show before that night, and I warned him to watch it online before shooting it, because there was no way he would catch the moments he would want to catch if he couldn't anticipate the staging. Afterwards, he told me that watching it beforehand was the only reason he got anything of note for Bluecoats. If this is the first time this crew has shot drum corps, I can tell you, it is head spinning. If you haven't watched the outtakes, I really encourage you to do so. Very well done, very revealing and meaningful. It is notable that the "Second Team" camera crew in the credits are 2 employees of Blue Devils' BD360 video crew. Smart move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleran Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I believe the Cadets videographer from last season (who only aged out of Cadets the year before, I believe) also provided footage for CotC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I'm curious what your personal contribution has been to those 22 titles. Apparently a lot more than people here who dismiss things left and right and praise the flavor of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 George, I wouldn't disagree with almost anything you post about Cadets or George H. As far as the CG incident, I assumed there was more there than what was shown. Wasn't assuming otherwise. I'm not going to get into a discussion of GH. It's the offseason, and 2016 is behind us. There really isn't anything to unearth that we haven't discussed ad nauseum previously. I watched the show, I watched the 2016 season, I understand what I am looking at. Cadets has a history that stretches well beyond the birth date of anyone marching in Cadets today. They are, in my opinion anyway, probably more seminal to the development of drum corps than any other corps. Including BD. But I think we can all agree that things have changed dramatically since Cadets stormed onto the scene, and most notably "in the last seven years." Already we have seen George struggle in the first two episodes with how to adjust to a more dramatic style of production, versus the old school Cadets/Cavaliers style of marching faster and playing louder. This is not news to you, me, or anyone else on this forum. There are a lot of very smart, very experienced staffers in Allentown who can size things up quickly and shift focus. Obviously 2016 became the stage where we saw just how difficult that will bebut Cadets will adjust, I have no doubt. I loved watching the show, and I am sure I will love watching the rest of it. I am "enjoying the ride." Sounds like we agree. Enjoy the show man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRapp Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 It is notable that the "Second Team" camera crew in the credits are 2 employees of Blue Devils' BD360 video crew. Smart move. Very smart indeed. I wonder if these outtakes were shot by BD and Cadets videographers. The style, pacing and content is a lot more like BD360. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketman Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Millions of fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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