greg_orangecounty Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 SCV is in the middle of Silicon Valley. There's gotta be an alum out there who made it big in the tech world willing to help them. Yes, I know a vast majority are not local today, I'm talking about over the course of the past 50 years when many were. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingerland Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, greg_orangecounty said: SCV is in the middle of Silicon Valley. There's gotta be an alum out there who made it big in the tech world willing to help them. Yes, I know a vast majority are not local today, I'm talking about over the course of the past 50 years when many were. No? Not to get too basic here, but they have the means to fix themselves. it's called Bingo. Blue Devils make it work and are financially solid. Bluecoats make it work and are financially solid. Troopers make it work and are financially solid (btw, Troopers also have a nicely designed, simple, website specifically for their Bingo operation, which I'd never noticed before). All three also have a good handle on how to control and manage expenses and purchases, which SCV apparently does not. None of this is rocket science. it's quite literally Business 101. Edited February 1, 2023 by Slingerland 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JimF-LowBari Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Slingerland said: Not to get too basic here, but they have the means to fix themselves. it's called Bingo. Blue Devils make it work and are financially solid. Bluecoats make it work and are financially solid. Troopers make it work and are financially solid (btw, Troopers also have a nicely designed, simple, website specifically for their Bingo operation, which I'd never noticed before). All three also have a good handle on how to control and manage expenses and purchases, which SCV apparently does not. None of this is rocket science. it's quite literally Business 101. Question I have is how much (percentage wise) of these corps income comes from Bingo and how does post COVID Bingo income compare to pre COVID. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_orangecounty Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Slingerland said: Not to get too basic here, but they have the means to fix themselves. it's called Bingo. Blue Devils make it work and are financially solid. Bluecoats make it work and are financially solid. Troopers make it work and are financially solid (btw, Troopers also have a nicely designed, simple, website specifically for their Bingo operation, which I'd never noticed before). All three also have a good handle on how to control and manage expenses and purchases, which SCV apparently does not. None of this is rocket science. it's quite literally Business 101. Online gambling is legal in California and you can't throw a rock in any direction without hitting a card club or Indian casino, so it amazes me that in 2023 any corps (in CA) can survive on Bingo. The part of your post that I don't doubt is that they're mismanaged to a certain extent. Combine that with the exorbitant cost of living in CA - especially the Bay Area - and this is what happens. Putting a competent (honest?) Board in place won't necessarily solve their woes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwillis35 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, greg_orangecounty said: Online gambling is legal in California and you can't throw a rock in any direction without hitting a card club or Indian casino, so it amazes me that in 2023 any corps (in CA) can survive on Bingo. The part of your post that I don't doubt is that they're mismanaged to a certain extent. Combine that with the exorbitant cost of living in CA - especially the Bay Area - and this is what happens. Putting a competent (honest?) Board in place won't necessarily solve their woes. This is my worry, and not just in California. Having said that I still think Bingo can be an effective money maker. There is no doubt that Casinos and sports betting are popping up everywhere and they will take some business away. On the flip side there is something unique about Bingo that many folks seem to enjoy. In the years I called bingo games for a youth band and also for the Bluecoats (almost 15 years) there is a sense of community and a social club feel to the game. For many of the folks who are retired and somewhat older it always seemed to me that they enjoyed attending the game because it was their night out to socialize with others in the community. You see them often come early to get food and coffee and talk with their friends. The sense of community is a bit different at Casino. Everyone is all over the place looking for the slot machine that will pay out or they are betting on horses or at the tables. This could certainly be a positive for Bingo. The game may slow down a bit (maybe) but I think the death of Bingo is over exaggerated. Another consideration is that you can lose your money a lot faster at a Casino. Not everyone is into spending all night trying to find the perfect slot machine or table game. It is also easier to chase your money at a Casino. Sports betting is also not everyone's cup of tea or expertise. I think for many retirees (and others) who still enjoy a night or two out each week -- where they can catch-up with friends and other locals while playing a game that supports a good cause -- bingo still represents a good time and a good value. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoris4Jazz Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, JimF-LowBari said: Question I have is how much (percentage wise) of these corps income comes from Bingo and how does post COVID Bingo income compare to pre COVID. I imagine that post COVID crowds are affected by two things: people who went indoors and haven't come back out due to health concerns or the fact that they found things to do inside they like better, and the aging of the demographic that enjoys bingo over other forms of "games of chance." I believe COVID took a big bite out of the crowd that was willing to go out and enjoy the bingo games and the crowd is only going to get smaller every year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, jwillis35 said: This is my worry, and not just in California. Having said that I still think Bingo can be an effective money maker. There is no doubt that Casinos and sports betting are popping up everywhere and they will take some business away. On the flip side there is something unique about Bingo that many folks seem to enjoy. In the years I called bingo games for a youth band and also for the Bluecoats (almost 15 years) there is a sense of community and a social club feel to the game. For many of the folks who are retired and somewhat older it always seemed to me that they enjoyed attending the game because it was their night out to socialize with others in the community. You see them often come early to get food and coffee and talk with their friends. The sense of community is a bit different at Casino. Everyone is all over the place looking for the slot machine that will pay out or they are betting on horses or at the tables. This could certainly be a positive for Bingo. The game may slow down a bit (maybe) but I think the death of Bingo is over exaggerated. Another consideration is that you can lose your money a lot faster at a Casino. Not everyone is into spending all night trying to find the perfect slot machine or table game. It is also easier to chase your money at a Casino. Sports betting is also not everyone's cup of tea or expertise. I think for many retirees (and others) who still enjoy a night or two out each week -- where they can catch-up with friends and other locals while playing a game that supports a good cause -- bingo still represents a good time and a good value. my Dad's Legion post in a small suburb of Harrisburg thrives with their 2 games a week! Since he had experience calling bingo when our corps had a game going, he got suckered....err asked to call for at least one of their nights. They get a good crowd both nights and have some good payouts. and since my step-mom passed away, it gets him out of the house. And somehow he got them to keep Strohs on hand for him Edited February 2, 2023 by Jeff Ream 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 43 minutes ago, Tenoris4Jazz said: I imagine that post COVID crowds are affected by two things: people who went indoors and haven't come back out due to health concerns or the fact that they found things to do inside they like better, and the aging of the demographic that enjoys bingo over other forms of "games of chance." I believe COVID took a big bite out of the crowd that was willing to go out and enjoy the bingo games and the crowd is only going to get smaller every year. however BD adapted to outdoor bingo and still have some form of it going 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingerland Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: however BD adapted to outdoor bingo and still have some form of it going The pandemic caused many businesses to adapt to new challenges by thinking creatively. BD did, and reaped the benefits. But again, Vanguard's reduced revenues from Bingo would have been manageable IF they also had a realistic idea of what things cost (being in Silicon Valley is no excuse for overpaying for freelance design staff, or buying, for cash, items that could have been rented for their seasonal use). Bad. Financial. Management. And that's the end of that story. -- Changing gears, Bingo isn't real gaming. It's low-cost, socializing fun time, so I don't see the boom in casinos as being a threat for the Bingo customer, since Bingo mindset is more like MegaMillions mindset - they're both gaming, but neither is like going to Vegas and dropping a few thousand at the roulette table. Edited February 1, 2023 by Slingerland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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