Cappybara Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Trolling/making fun of another whether agreeing or disagreeing is despicable. Feel better? What a great thoughtful set of insightful comments you made yet again. He's proven himself to be quite a pleasant person in the Phantom thread /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshClements403 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Do you still stand by this from May? (Someone liked my reply to it from months ago which brought me back to it) Without a doubt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshClements403 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Even more LOLOL If you didn't have the mentality of an 8 year old, you would realize that my predictions were updated about a week later in which I moved BK down and put the Bluecoats in the top 3. Grow up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJazz1900 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 People get offended so easily. I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noahsigs Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) I love how different everyone's styles are this year. No one is similar to anyone... It's crazy. At Massillon, in just the first half, I'm gonna see Cavies, BK, Phantom, and Madison. How much more different can you get? Not a prediction but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited July 13, 2016 by noahsigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damonallred Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 You really think BK will be over the Cadets?? I could very well be wrong, but history says that Cadets staff asks too much of the members and peak too early (see 2014 when they choked at finals and 2015 when they couldn't close any gap between the corps who were barely ahead of them point wise [granted all of those shows that beat them are amazing]) and that BK's closers are life changing to those who perform, spectate, and even judge them so ya never know what could happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I could very well be wrong, but history says that Cadets staff asks too much of the members and peak too early (see 2014 when they choked at finals and 2015 when they couldn't close any gap between the corps who were barely ahead of them point wise [granted all of those shows that beat them are amazing]) and that BK's closers are life changing to those who perform, spectate, and even judge them so ya never know what could happen.[/quote Just SO much to resound to here but won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJazz1900 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) BK's closers are life changing to those who perform, spectate, and even judge them so ya never know what could happen.Couple thoughts:- when you're talking about Blue Knights' closers being life changing, I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong, please) that you are only referencing 2014 (That One Second) and 2015 (Because). I mean, I don't think any of BK's closers from 2013-before were "life-changing" - if that is the case, then you're comparing two years of "life changing" (which is your opinion, not a universal fact or anything) closers from BK to many many many MANY years of competitive success from the Cadets. Do I agree with your assessment of the 2014/2015 Cadets? Absolutely-- but, I wouldn't use those two years as the reference for how the Cadets operate, just like I wouldn't use the 2014/2015 BK for being know for life changing closers-- two years is not enough to create a pattern, good or bad. Finally, this assumes that BK has an effective closer, which, as of today, they don't even have a full closer, let alone an effective (or life changing) closer. Edited July 13, 2016 by RedJazz1900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Couple thoughts: - when you're talking about Blue Knights' closers being life changing, I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong, please) that you are only referencing 2014 (That One Second) and 2015 (Because). I mean, I don't think any of BK's closers from 2013-before were "life-changing" - if that is the case, then you're comparing two years of "life changing" (which is your opinion, not a universal fact or anything) closers from BK to many many many MANY years of competitive success from the Cadets. Do I agree with your assessment of the 2014/2015 Cadets? Absolutely-- but, I wouldn't use those two years as the reference for how the Cadets operate, just like I wouldn't use the 2014/2015 BK for being know for life changing closers-- two years is not enough to create a pattern, good or bad. Finally, this assumes that BK has an effective closer, which, as of today, they don't even have a full closer, let alone an effective (or life changing) closer. 😂.... You told her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry7184 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) I could very well be wrong, but history says that Cadets staff asks too much of the members and peak too early (see 2014 when they choked at finals and 2015 when they couldn't close any gap between the corps who were barely ahead of them point wise [granted all of those shows that beat them are amazing]) and that BK's closers are life changing to those who perform, spectate, and even judge them so ya never know what could happen. You couldn't very well be wrong. You are wrong. In fact, I would bet Cadets beat BK in every single sub caption at finals. I don't disagree with your assessment of the last two years of the Cadets, but using 2014 and 2015 doesn't work when you say "history." What can be used as a "history" argument is that the Cadets haven't finished outside of the top 5 since 1991. BK has never made the top 5. Cadets are capable of winning BOTH brass and percussion. BK isn't capable of winning any caption this year (let alone placing in the top 4 or 5 in any caption). BK finished 5th with one judge in GE 2 at finals last year. That is the only sub caption they finished in the top 5. Their show last year was much better than this year's, IMO, so I am expecting zero top 6 finishes in any sub caption from them this year. Brass and percussion will bleed over to GE, which puts at least the musical component in the Cadets favor. Cadets should easily top BK in GE and Music, and they will probably top them visually too. There is absolutely, without a doubt, a 0% chance that BK will beat the Cadets at all this year. Not picking on BK. I could say the same exact thing about any corps that placed 6th and lower last year. With the exception of the Cavaliers. Edited July 13, 2016 by henry7184 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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