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Well, this is an exciting announcement!! Can’t wait to hear Crossmen jazz again
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I'm not a lawyer, and don't pretend to be one on TV. However, I have consulted with a couple real life lawyers, including one that marched with a Division 1 corps back in the day and has relatively current understanding on the activity. Here's my take based on my conversations with them. With the filing for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, the current iteration of the Cadets is done. Out of business. No path forward. Obviously there are some moral and ethical questions associated with the use of the Cadets name in any capacity moving forward. However, there are legal avenues in which the Cadets name could possibly resurface down the road. Option #1 - The name, trademarks or other assets (including digital assets) are determined to have enough value that the bankruptcy trustee sells them and uses the proceeds to pay creditors. For example, the Cadets domain name is worth $1,800 to $2,500 depending on which appraisal service you use. Their Facebook with over 100K followers has a value as well. All of the above assets could be sold, and the purchaser could use them however they saw fit, including to potentially launch a new "Cadets" program. The United States District Court for the District of New Jersey (which supersedes any civil court opinions/rulings) has already ruled that liability doesn't automatically transfer to the successor unless the plaintiff can “establish that there is continuity in management, shareholders, personnel, physical location, assets, and general business operation between selling and purchasing corporations following the asset acquisition.” So as long as the successor organization starts with an entirely clean slate (new board, new management, new location, etc.), they will likely be in the clear from a liability standpoint. Option #2 - The bankruptcy trustee determines that the above assets aren't worth much and opts to abandon them instead of selling them. A different organization could potentially claim them and use them to start a new Cadets program. Similar to above, as long as they start with a clean slate... they should be in the clear from successor liability. Keep in mind that the primary reason why the current iteration of the Cadets was determined to be liable was a result of a property transfer agreement that was executed between YEA and CA&E. That transfer of assets established successor liability. As long as there isn't that type of blatant continuity moving forward, it would be significantly more challenging for a plaintiff to successfully argue that successor liability should apply.
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Houston, Do we have a problem?
Galen replied to Old Corps Guy's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
There is finally a "Houston" show on the calendar- except that it's not truly a "Houston" show: https://www.dci.org/events/2024-dci-houston Being held at Prairie View A&M, a good hour NW of Houston. -
I too left Scouting in my mid-teens due to MB, DC plus 3 varsity sports commitments (track, CC & soccer). I left at the rank of Life; in retrospect I probably should have stuck it out to get my Eagle Scout (next rank up) but I helped by good friend (we were the best men at each others’ weddings) get his Eagle project done.
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Problems Scheduling Multiple Shows
Galen replied to JimF-LowBari's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
Here's a street-view look at Bristol- 14 rows technically, but very tiny overall and the stands are in need of some major refurbishment. https://photos.app.goo.gl/oM8tGsg6NXBS5LXd9 -
Problems Scheduling Multiple Shows
Tim K replied to JimF-LowBari's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
This is the venue in Bristol where the show was held until 2015. The Cranston show was in a city and held there in 2016-18. The stadium in Cranston was probably a bit larger though not as long as Bristol. Bristol also allowed people to bring lawn chairs and sit on the grass for really cheap seats. Cranston had drum corps fans, most of whom probably went to the BAC show and Beanpot, both of which took place about the same time. Bristol had seasoned fans as well as folks who happened to be in Bristol for the festivities. Bristol/Cranston show wasn’t exactly cancelled. DCI offered an earlier date. If the organizers wanted an early date, the show would have been held, but the date they were given was late June and with all the preparation for the many events of July 4th in Bristol, the late June date was not possible. Now there’s no early season New England shows. -
How Are Drum Corps Leaders Compensated?
greg_orangecounty replied to Vuitton's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
Considering the cost of living and housing in the Walnut Creek - Concord area, his salary does not seem out of line at all. -
Silver Leaves Brass ensemble is opening this year’s performance schedule with a May 20 Victoria Day holiday parade in Woodstock, the first of about 15 events winding up in mid-December with an evening Santa Claus parade in St. George. The Woodstock parade was the traditional start of the Preston Scout House Band summer parade season […]View the full article
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Funny coincidence, but my wife and I are currently doing a Sopranos rewatch.
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Tom Santino Rejoins BAC Brass Staff
DCP NewsFeed posted a topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
The Boston Crusaders are excited to announce that renowned educator Tom Santino will be rejoining the BAC Brass staff in 2024! Tom previously served as a caption head and advisor for the Boston Crusaders throughout the early 2000s and returns to serve under the leadership of Gino Cipriani. Read Tom’s bio below! Tom earned his […]View the full article -
How Are Drum Corps Leaders Compensated?
LabMaster replied to Vuitton's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
Wow! That seems like a lot. Much more than most. I thought most ED’s made less than $100k. Expenses not included and no idea on benefits packages. Years ago, benefits were most often about 25%-28% over wage. That might take a full comp package value at $125-$130k. -
2024 Official Programs & Playlist
Vuitton replied to arabica's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
Well if you're the dumbest, what does that make me? I didn't even consider it could have to do with securing the rights to use the music. I remember in 2014 when Vanguard couldn't do just that and had to redo their show.- 31 replies
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I've just been browsing through several corps 990s. In 2022, BD's shows David Gibb's compensation was $638,000, which I thought was incredibly high until I reviewed prior years and saw that in some years he didn't make very much at at considering his role. Mostly, it looks like he made about $140,000. This is just one example of people in those positions that don't seem to take pay some years, or very little in some years. Therefore, I'm guessing a big chunk of the $638,000 was in some way back pay. Is this what happens? I'm just curious, because in some years it seems as though is barely a liveable wage.
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Chief Guns replied to arabica's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
Not even close. I am by far the dumbest person on this site. You guys teach me about this activity.- 31 replies
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Vuitton replied to arabica's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
Once again you are smarter than I.- 31 replies
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Problems Scheduling Multiple Shows
MGCpimpOtimp replied to JimF-LowBari's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
Here's a link to where it was at least the last few years before it got canned, not sure if it was at a better venue before that. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mt+Hope+High+School+Athletic+Fields/@41.6879754,-71.2727179,43m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89e455d7a7a437dd:0x62f45bf1eb6d282a!8m2!3d41.6886032!4d-71.2716053!16s%2Fg%2F11txfjzz7j?entry=ttu - Yesterday
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Blue Devils 2024 right before the storm
Jeff Ream replied to theonlyfizzle's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
so the Diner scene, but with Samuel L Jackson and Uma Thurman packing? -
Problems Scheduling Multiple Shows
Jeff Ream replied to JimF-LowBari's topic in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
good enough that the PIAA moved there. Hershey has become a giant pain to run anything but concerts in. -
I also had a choice between band and Boy Scouts. The answer was easy. I was a bad as in lousy Boy Scout. Made it to Tenderfoot but that was probably out of pity. I had a tendency to be out of step in band. Out of step can be corrected, being a lousy Scout could mean getting lost in the wilderness never to be heard from again. I chose band and I made the right choice. Since you marched in a Top 12 finalist, you probably did too!
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That was always my complaint to my wife who served as a Girl Scout leader. I helped her transport (band truck w/permission) & inventory all of the cookies that most of the profit went to the district office to pay their salaries. Then they wanted her to serve as an area manager that was a volunteer position. She finally said 'nope'. But she loved serving the local troop. Most all of the cookie profit goes up the chain of command.