LabMaster Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 3 hours ago, jwillis35 said: Very true. I read that person's post and though he could be correct about the instructor, people often make it seem like magic. Like somehow one music instructor can magically turn a brass line into an Ott winner. It just does not work that way. If you listen to the best brass lines historically in the the DCI era (BD on many years, old Garfield up to Cadets 2015, Star, Crown, SCV and even some Phantom, Cavaliers and Madison years) you realize that while they did have fantastic instruction they also had super talent and a brass book constructed for that talent. It's never magic. It takes a lot of talent top to bottom, it takes the right constructions of the music book, it takes excellent teaching, and it takes a lot of coordination in how the music will work with the visual program. There is also the natural rate at which musicians can improve in the course of 3 months (camp through tour). A typical high school junior or senior will only improve so much on their instrument depending on how much they play their instrument and whether or not they take private lessons. And that is over the course of an entire school year. Many corps do march HS kids. Even if they are good HS musicians there is a limit on how far they can go over 3 months. Many younger musicians simply have physical limitations in articulation, control, range, etc. Because of this the nature of the brass book has to be constructed for what the full ensemble can handle, and not just the top 10% of musicians in the corps. The notion that someone can come in and turn those kids into pro-level concert artists or get them closer to corps who are marching more music majors with high level experience and long years of lessons is akin to believing in some sort of "THINK" system (a la The Music Man) in which your approach over the course of 3 months will work magic. All of this speaks to why I have loved Drum & Bugle Corps over the decades. I love that good instruction can bring the best out of these marching members and in some cases I believe the activity does work miracles for these kids. I love that. But there are real physical and musical limitations that no instructor can work around. They will make improvements for sure. Agreeing with all of this. I’ve been watching a process that has taken a lot of time. Step by step with a plan for improvement year after year. They are very strong this year. And they are now starting to get noticed. It can take years. It has taken time for this group. No matter how good an instructor may be, it takes a while to build a good brass program and line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box5Opinion Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Caption contenders: GE - Bluecoats, Blue Devils, Carolina Crown, Boston Crusaders Visual - Bluecoats, Carolina Crown, Boston Crusaders, Blue Devils Brass: Carolina Crown, Blue Devils, Boston Crusaders, Bluecoats Percussion: SCV, Bluecoats, Blue Devils, Carolina Crown Guard: Boston Crusaders, Carolina Crown, Bluecoats, Blue Devils Will get a better vision at San Antonio Just my 2 cents 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, njthundrrd said: Are there any predictions in this thread? LOL No, we don’t pay attention to actual subject headers. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaklefthand4ever Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Terri Schehr said: No, we don’t pay attention to actual subject headers. Any year where there has been a prediction thread, there should have been an over/under bet on how many pages it would go before being completely derailed. That being said, I pretty much agree with the Top 4. I want to see PR and Bloo from last night so I can get a read on a few things (especially with PR.) Going to go see Crown practice tonight. Edited July 8, 2022 by Weaklefthand4ever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVG_DC Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 48 minutes ago, Weaklefthand4ever said: Any year where there has ben a prediction thread, there should have been an over/under bet on how many pages it would go before being completely derailed. That being said, I pretty much agree with the Top 4. I want to see PR and Bloo from last night so I can get a read on a few things (especially with PR.) Going to go see Crown practice tonight. Easy bet. Detailed on the first page 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideyourbike Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 I have one ticket to the Broken Arrow, OK show to give away. Section D, which is 50 yard line. Message me if you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phd-student-TTU Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Am I the only one who can’t get into this season? There are only two shows I’d seriously pay to watch. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corps8294 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 A couple weeks before San Antonio; here we go... 1. Blue Devils (that corps full of, mostly, rookies continues to impress) 2. Carolina Crown 3. Boston Crusaders 4. Bluecoats 5. Santa Clara Vanguard 6. Cavaliers 7. Cadets 8. Phantom Regiment 9. Blue Stars 10. Mandarins 11. Blue Knights 12. Crossmen 13. Colts 14. Madison Scouts 15. The Academy 16. Music City 17. Troopers 18. Gold 19. Blue Devils B 20. Genesis 21. Pacific Crest 22. Spartans 23. Jersey Surf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSnareDrummer Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Maybe I missed this or I need to get on Prevagen, but so far this season has any corps beaten another corps that they previously lost to earlier in this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ediker Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 3 hours ago, OldSnareDrummer said: Maybe I missed this or I need to get on Prevagen, but so far this season has any corps beaten another corps that they previously lost to earlier in this season? Good question. I’m expecting Phantom to start climbing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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